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Yeah, anything that involves Chicago getting picks or rentals in exchange for unloading cap is going to be attractive. They are FUCKED for next season already.

15 players under contract for next year with an over $60M cap hit. For those playing along at home, that's 10 forwards, 5 defenseman, and 1 goalie.

They are the definition of cap hell right now.


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Squanto wrote:
Yeah, anything that involves Chicago getting picks or rentals in exchange for unloading cap is going to be attractive. They are FUCKED for next season already.

15 players under contract for next year with an over $60M cap hit. For those playing along at home, that's 10 forwards, 5 defenseman, and 1 goalie.

They are the definition of cap hell right now.


Which is even more beneficial to us because Sharp wouldn't be just a rental. He'd be a solid winger for us for another two years.

Give them picks and the defenseman in Lydman that they need, and let Sekera play, or call up Weber.

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If we could, right now I'd trade:

Lydman + 1st + both our 3rds + Paul Byron for

Versteeg and Sharp. They'd add such a different dynamic to our team, and allow us to roll 3 scary scoring lines.

Vanek-Roy-Sharp
Versteeg-Connolly-Pommer
Hecht-Goose-Stafford
Kaleta-Mac-Grier

Or swap Hecht to C on 3rd line, and Mac up, and Grier Kaleta Goose on 4th.

Although Chicago are going to be getting a ton of offers on those guys. We'll have to see how it plays out.

But the only two players I want on Chicago are Sharp and Versteeg

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jvaccaro6 wrote:
If we could, right now I'd trade:

Lydman + 1st + both our 3rds + Paul Byron for

Versteeg and Sharp. They'd add such a different dynamic to our team, and allow us to roll 3 scary scoring lines.

Vanek-Roy-Sharp
Versteeg-Connolly-Pommer
Hecht-Goose-Stafford
Kaleta-Mac-Grier

Or swap Hecht to C on 3rd line, and Mac up, and Grier Kaleta Goose on 4th.

Although Chicago are going to be getting a ton of offers on those guys. We'll have to see how it plays out.

But the only two players I want on Chicago are Sharp and Versteeg

Nice lineup, but do you think Buf would send Kennedy down to fill out this type of roster? And what about Ellis and Mair, just sit em?

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slesh wrote:
jvaccaro6 wrote:
If we could, right now I'd trade:

Lydman + 1st + both our 3rds + Paul Byron for

Versteeg and Sharp. They'd add such a different dynamic to our team, and allow us to roll 3 scary scoring lines.

Vanek-Roy-Sharp
Versteeg-Connolly-Pommer
Hecht-Goose-Stafford
Kaleta-Mac-Grier

Or swap Hecht to C on 3rd line, and Mac up, and Grier Kaleta Goose on 4th.

Although Chicago are going to be getting a ton of offers on those guys. We'll have to see how it plays out.

But the only two players I want on Chicago are Sharp and Versteeg

Nice lineup, but do you think Buf would send Kennedy down to fill out this type of roster? And what about Ellis and Mair, just sit em?


Oh, I forgot about those guys, they've been ghosts on this line up for so long in the line up...

Honestly, Kennedy is still able to be sent down, and hasn't shown me a reason for him to be non expendable, and ellis and mair are both UFAs, who add next to nothing to this team. Would anyone miss them?

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jvaccaro6 wrote:
slesh wrote:
jvaccaro6 wrote:
If we could, right now I'd trade:

Lydman + 1st + both our 3rds + Paul Byron for

Versteeg and Sharp. They'd add such a different dynamic to our team, and allow us to roll 3 scary scoring lines.

Vanek-Roy-Sharp
Versteeg-Connolly-Pommer
Hecht-Goose-Stafford
Kaleta-Mac-Grier

Or swap Hecht to C on 3rd line, and Mac up, and Grier Kaleta Goose on 4th.

Although Chicago are going to be getting a ton of offers on those guys. We'll have to see how it plays out.

But the only two players I want on Chicago are Sharp and Versteeg

Nice lineup, but do you think Buf would send Kennedy down to fill out this type of roster? And what about Ellis and Mair, just sit em?


Oh, I forgot about those guys, they've been ghosts on this line up for so long in the line up...

Honestly, Kennedy is still able to be sent down, and hasn't shown me a reason for him to be non expendable, and ellis and mair are both UFAs, who add next to nothing to this team. Would anyone miss them?


I see Kennedy as the type of player we need to keep pushing. Remember, it is his rookie season, and he's shown flashes of some very talented play.

I think he's going to get better and better. I wouldn't want to send him down.

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Would you really take Kennedy over either Sharp or Versteeg though? Or over anybody else on the roster above? I mean maybe in place of Grier, but that's only if he were unable to be signed after the season.

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jvaccaro6 wrote:
Would you really take Kennedy over either Sharp or Versteeg though? Or over anybody else on the roster above? I mean maybe in place of Grier, but that's only if he were unable to be signed after the season.


Why Mac centering the 4th line? That should be Kennedy.

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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
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Would you really take Kennedy over either Sharp or Versteeg though? Or over anybody else on the roster above? I mean maybe in place of Grier, but that's only if he were unable to be signed after the season.


Why Mac centering the 4th line? That should be Kennedy.


Experience, Mac is the same age as Kennedy, and has many more NHL games under his belt, not to mention the fact he's a proven scoring threat. He shoots at 15.2% over his career in the NHL.

Kennedy, too many questions, including can he handle the stress of the NHL, and can he produce at all when not playing with veterans like Vanek and Grier.

Mac just seems like he's a more solid player at this point. Not to mention that he's on a 1-way contract and is a RFA, with too many games to be sent down without clearing waivers, where as kennedy can be sent down, no waivers involved.

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jvaccaro6 wrote:
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Would you really take Kennedy over either Sharp or Versteeg though? Or over anybody else on the roster above? I mean maybe in place of Grier, but that's only if he were unable to be signed after the season.


Why Mac centering the 4th line? That should be Kennedy.


Experience, Mac is the same age as Kennedy, and has many more NHL games under his belt, not to mention the fact he's a proven scoring threat. He shoots at 15.2% over his career in the NHL.

Kennedy, too many questions, including can he handle the stress of the NHL, and can he produce at all when not playing with veterans like Vanek and Grier.

Mac just seems like he's a more solid player at this point. Not to mention that he's on a 1-way contract and is a RFA, with too many games to be sent down without clearing waivers, where as kennedy can be sent down, no waivers involved.


But Mac isn't a center, nor does he play the defensive side of the game nearly as well as Kennedy.

Couple that with the fact that Kennedy would be centering against a 4th line with the ability to generate even more scoring opportunities, and I think it'd be our best shot.

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Meh, we can agree to disagree on the 4th line center.

Like I said, move Goose to 4th, Hecht to center the 3rd between Mac and Stafford


You like Kennedy, I don't like his game. Either way, adding Versteeg and Sharp would make this team much better

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jvaccaro6 wrote:
Meh, we can agree to disagree on the 4th line center.

Like I said, move Goose to 4th, Hecht to center the 3rd between Mac and Stafford


You like Kennedy, I don't like his game. Either way, adding Versteeg and Sharp would make this team much better


Definitely.

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jvaccaro6 wrote:
Meh, we can agree to disagree on the 4th line center.

Like I said, move Goose to 4th, Hecht to center the 3rd between Mac and Stafford


You like Kennedy, I don't like his game. Either way, adding Versteeg and Sharp would make this team much better


Much better.


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jvaccaro6 wrote:
slesh wrote:
jvaccaro6 wrote:
If we could, right now I'd trade:

Lydman + 1st + both our 3rds + Paul Byron for

Versteeg and Sharp. They'd add such a different dynamic to our team, and allow us to roll 3 scary scoring lines.

Vanek-Roy-Sharp
Versteeg-Connolly-Pommer
Hecht-Goose-Stafford
Kaleta-Mac-Grier

Or swap Hecht to C on 3rd line, and Mac up, and Grier Kaleta Goose on 4th.

Although Chicago are going to be getting a ton of offers on those guys. We'll have to see how it plays out.

But the only two players I want on Chicago are Sharp and Versteeg

Nice lineup, but do you think Buf would send Kennedy down to fill out this type of roster? And what about Ellis and Mair, just sit em?


Oh, I forgot about those guys, they've been ghosts on this line up for so long in the line up...

Honestly, Kennedy is still able to be sent down, and hasn't shown me a reason for him to be non expendable, and ellis and mair are both UFAs, who add next to nothing to this team. Would anyone miss them?

Hehehe,

Sabres Nation anoint you GM for the remainder of the season, now please, go make this happen.
Kennedy to Portland, Mair at the Bus station and Ellis to the Press Box.

Ya know jvaccro6, I like these 2 guys. Would Darcy have this type of deal on his Radar is what I'm asking.

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well as Gm of Sabres nation,

I'm also trading Stafford and Gerbe to Toronto for the services of Ponakarovski, and then sign him in the off season for the 3.1M he'll be asking for.

Huge upgrade over Stafford, will become a rebuilding casualty under Burke.

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slesh wrote:
jvaccaro6 wrote:
slesh wrote:
jvaccaro6 wrote:
If we could, right now I'd trade:

Lydman + 1st + both our 3rds + Paul Byron for

Versteeg and Sharp. They'd add such a different dynamic to our team, and allow us to roll 3 scary scoring lines.

Vanek-Roy-Sharp
Versteeg-Connolly-Pommer
Hecht-Goose-Stafford
Kaleta-Mac-Grier

Or swap Hecht to C on 3rd line, and Mac up, and Grier Kaleta Goose on 4th.

Although Chicago are going to be getting a ton of offers on those guys. We'll have to see how it plays out.

But the only two players I want on Chicago are Sharp and Versteeg

Nice lineup, but do you think Buf would send Kennedy down to fill out this type of roster? And what about Ellis and Mair, just sit em?


Oh, I forgot about those guys, they've been ghosts on this line up for so long in the line up...

Honestly, Kennedy is still able to be sent down, and hasn't shown me a reason for him to be non expendable, and ellis and mair are both UFAs, who add next to nothing to this team. Would anyone miss them?

Hehehe,

Sabres Nation anoint you GM for the remainder of the season, now please, go make this happen.
Kennedy to Portland, Mair at the Bus station and Ellis to the Press Box.

Ya know jvaccro6, I like these 2 guys. Would Darcy have this type of deal on his Radar is what I'm asking.


Two reasons not to move Hecht to center though:

1. Don't mess with the Pominville-Connolly-Hecht line. They've got a great thing going.

2. Hecht has been extremely good as the first man in on the forecheck, and as a center, he won't be able to be first man in.

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I don't know what position Sharp or Versteeg even play. Numbers site has them as RWer's, Hawks site has them as LWers :?

Haven't seen them play but twice this season, once against the Sabres, but I caught a Cgy-Chi matchup and man, that Sharp looked way better then Hecht along the boards and down low. He not only maintained puck control but made a couple of truly sweetheart passes that game. I remember that goal by Byfuglien, he made a bueaty of a pass to him with 2 guys on him from the corner. It was sweet.

Just my 2 ponies on him.

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slesh wrote:
I don't know what position Sharp or Versteeg even play. Numbers site has them as RWer's, Hawks site has them as LWers :?

Haven't seen them play but twice this season, once against the Sabres, but I caught a Cgy-Chi matchup and man, that Sharp looked way better then Hecht along the boards and down low. He not only maintained puck control but made a couple of truly sweetheart passes that game. I remember that goal by Byfuglien, he made a bueaty of a pass to him with 2 guys on him from the corner. It was sweet.

Just my 2 ponies on him.


Good points. I didn't consider that Sharp or Versteeg could be even better.

That sad, this is kind of a depressing topic, because I doubt it'll happen. I can only dream. :(

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jvaccaro6 wrote:
If we could, right now I'd trade:

Lydman + 1st + both our 3rds + Paul Byron for

Versteeg and Sharp. They'd add such a different dynamic to our team, and allow us to roll 3 scary scoring lines.

Vanek-Roy-Sharp
Versteeg-Connolly-Pommer
Hecht-Goose-Stafford
Kaleta-Mac-Grier

Or swap Hecht to C on 3rd line, and Mac up, and Grier Kaleta Goose on 4th.

Although Chicago are going to be getting a ton of offers on those guys. We'll have to see how it plays out.

But the only two players I want on Chicago are Sharp and Versteeg



I would love that move. :clap: :dance: :lol:

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well as Gm of Sabres nation,

I'm also trading Stafford and Gerbe to Toronto for the services of Ponakarovski, and then sign him in the off season for the 3.1M he'll be asking for.

Huge upgrade over Stafford, will become a rebuilding casualty under Burke.

Or you could just hold onto them until they turn from "assets" into 21, 22, and 23 roster spots(which have no value).


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