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"Go out and run 'em."
- Lindy Ruff, 23 Feb. 2007

You're absolutely right. The several Iranians I know love America.

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Hold my beer and watch this...

So they announced they've successfully enriched Uranium to 20%; enough to create a nuclear reaction. Is this the "punch" they were talking about, or is something else coming?

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Wheelhouse

Yeah, I'm still on the edge of my seat

/sarcasm

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but do they REALLY???

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The revolutionaries love America. Their only complaint with us is that we haven't supported their uprising enough to dismantle the current leadership.

With the size of the threat they're becoming, I'd have to say I agree with them. We should air lift them some rifles and let them go to town.

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Wheelhouse

No.
They announced the capability of one of their enrichment plants to go to up to 80%...20% isn't weapons grade.
This is a big deal because the international community has been appeasing their so called medical enrichment regime by swapping out their low enriched uranium with slightly higher uranium (France and Russia have done this).

They basically took away the last nuclear bargaining chip the UN had.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... state.html

Imadinnerjacket declared Iran a "nuclear state".

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Hold my beer and watch this...

We should stay the fuck out of in my opinion.

Every time the US starts dicking around trying to effect regime change somewhere, we end up regretting it 10 years later, because the regime we supported ends up being just as bad as the one we wanted to get rid of.

Of this whole thread, I agree with this most.

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Its NNYFAN, but you can just call me Kris.

What could be worse, or even as bad, as the current Islamic dictatorship?

These are the assholes blowing up IED's in Iraq
These are the assholes arming Syria.
These are the assholes bankrolling Hezbollah in Lebanon.

A whole lot of problems would go away with the Ayatollahs gone.

I wouldn't worry though. I highly doubt Barry has the stones to even covertly help their revolution.

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Hold my beer and watch this...

So today is the day we find out something... what will it be? idk... idc as long as it doesnt affect me directly... haha. But on a more serious note, sometimes I wish we would just be a Isolationist nation, we dont fuck with other people, and we dont let in just about anyone who wants to come in.

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LETS GO BUFFALO!

Not doing anything about this dictatorship is like having a rat infestation in your house, and not doing anything about it.

It's going to get out of fucking control.

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Wheelhouse

This is the absolutely correct answer.

-No foreign intervention
-mind our own business

Thomas Jefferson and a majority of the founding fathers felt this way.

"Alliances with none, trade with all" - Thomas Jefferson

We have lost our way as a nation, that is very clear. Blowback for operations such as regime change cost the American Citizens and American Business's way more than the intervention policy offers in return.

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Lord Stanley's Cup is what its all about.
Mr. Pegula, your destiny awaits you sir.

We tried isolationism once before. It ended badly. The world is way too small and far too integrated for that kind of a foreign policy.

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Oh lord, it's hard to be humble, when you're perfect in every way. I can't wait to look in the mirror, 'cause I get better looking each day. To know me is to love me, I must be a hell of a man. Oh lord, it's hard to be humble, but I'm doin' the best that I can.

? It ended badly?

What?

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Lord Stanley's Cup is what its all about.
Mr. Pegula, your destiny awaits you sir.

Pearl Harbor comes to mind.

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Wheelhouse

I'm not a fan of strict isolationism, but at the same time I'm not a fan of the US decide who should be in charge of other countries.

As a nation, we haven't always picked the best horse to back.

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Oh lord, it's hard to be humble, when you're perfect in every way. I can't wait to look in the mirror, 'cause I get better looking each day. To know me is to love me, I must be a hell of a man. Oh lord, it's hard to be humble, but I'm doin' the best that I can.

We were invited, Punch was served, check with Poland!

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"She's like plan C after an 18 pack"

Squanto 7/27/2010

Pearl Harbor? How does that come to mind, we were already actively involved in WW2 via the Lend Lease Act to England.
The Attack on Pearl Harbor was not due to an isolationist policy.

Eventually these feelings translated into the USA leading an international movement to isolate Japan economically and thus force them to withdraw from China. Primarily the USA plan was to cut off credit to the Japanese which would prevent them from being able to purchase petroleum. Japan received petroleum (an absolutely vital economic and military commodity, then as it is now) from three sources: The USA, Dutch east indies (Indonesia) and Burma (British controlled in the 1940's). The USA inspired movement included all three sources.

Japan could/would not accept a withdrawal from the Chinese war and instead began planning a first strike against the USA navy. Eliminating or reducing the USA naval forces in the Pacific would make the Japanese navy paramount, and thus Japan would be able to defeat the economic consequences of the USA ultimatum. After eliminating the USA navy Japan planned to occupy the Dutch East Indies and Burma, thus gaining control of enough oil to run their military and economy.


You cannot re write history to fit your own views. It is what it is.

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Lord Stanley's Cup is what its all about.
Mr. Pegula, your destiny awaits you sir.