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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:44 pm 
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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) is rewriting a jobs bill after Democrats complained of too many concessions to Republicans.

Reid announced Thursday that he would cut drastically back on the jobs bill Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) introduced only hours earlier, essentially overruling the powerful chairman.


I can't wait until this guy gets tossed on his ass in November.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/8078 ... -jobs-bill

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I'll add that I think that jobs bill was a mess that basically only extended unemployment benefits and didn't actually create jobs...but Reid is now going to make it even worse...and more expensive.

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Wait a sec Ed.... I thought you were a fiscal conservative above all else?

The Reid bill is estimated to cost $15B. The Baucus bill was estimated to cost $85B. This should be good, right?
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Wait a sec Ed.... I thought you were a fiscal conservative above all else?

The Reid bill is estimated to cost $15B. The Baucus bill was estimated to cost $85B. This should be good, right?

See my above comment.


I think they both suck and don't actually create jobs.
But that's not the point. Democrats calling for bipartisanship then shitting on Republicans at the 11th hour is the point.

fuck em. I now hope every Senate vote until November is a party line no vote from Republicans.

Recent remarks on the subject are spot on. Democrats don't want bipartisanship...they want surrender.

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Frankly, I'm glad the the Democrats have given up on attempting bipartisanship. What has it gotten them?

Nothing.

The Republicans are reinforcing their party of no platform. They say Obama doesn't listen to their ideas, but then when their ideas get incorporated into bills, they vote against them because it hurts Obama.

They wanted an open forum on health care reform. Obama says OK and sets it up, then the Repubs don't want to go because they think it's a 'trap'.

The Republicans screamed when Medicare funding was reduced by a few hundred million in the reform bills....except they WANT TO CUT MORE FUNDING than what was in the bills!!!

The problem with Democrats is that they try this bipartisan stuff, and the republicans just use the opportunity to screw them as much as possible to set themselves up for the next election cycle.
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Um....this is, I think the first actually bipartisan bill I've seen come out of this Senate.

How can you say with a straight face they've honestly attempted bipartisanship?

Saying "we'll listen to your ideas" then ignore them is not bipartisanship...it's lip service.

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Crosscheck wrote:
I now hope every Senate vote until November is a party line no vote from Republicans.

Hmm, like that is a change of heart for you, eh Cross?

How is this not bipartisan again? It contains a $10 billion plan to exempt companies from paying their share of Social Security payroll taxes for new hires who had been unemployed for at least 60 days this year.

What Democrat came up with that idea? Why, none other than Senator Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah.

Well, how about the provision to permit businesses to write off equipment purchases as a business expense? Or a $31 billion package of tax breaks for individuals and businesses? Those Democratic ideas? Too much for Republicans to stomach tax cuts for businesses, Cross?

If they had passed the original bill, which was full of all kinds of pork, two things would have happened: 1) Four or five Republicans would have voted for it and then the GOP would have used that bill to beat Democrats over the head in November as big spending pigs at the trough, and 2) you would have created a thread, Cross, about how wasteful that bill was and that this was another example of why the country needs a Republican Congress.

I too, prefer straight line party votes, just as soon as the Senate changes the filibuster rule that allows the minority to dictate to the democratically elected majority.

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Godzilla1960 wrote:
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I now hope every Senate vote until November is a party line no vote from Republicans.


I too, prefer straight line party votes, just as soon as the Senate changes the filibuster rule that allows the minority to dictate to the democratically elected majority.


Then we're in agreement...what's wrong with you Squanto?

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I wish Lyndon Johnson was still around in the Senate. Reid is such a pussy.

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I wish Lyndon Johnson was still around in the Senate. Reid is such a pussy.

Man you got that right.

I'm often amazed that Bush had a house and Senate controlled by the other party and did whatever the hell he pleased (as they complained about it), now that Democrats are in the white house they can't pass their own agenda.

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Godzilla1960 wrote:
I wish Lyndon Johnson was still around in the Senate. Reid is such a pussy.

Man you got that right.

I'm often amazed that Bush had a house and Senate controlled by the other party and did whatever the hell he pleased (as they complained about it), now that Democrats are in the white house they can't pass their own agenda.

Didn't I tell you, back when you were worrying about Democrats controlling the House, Senate and presidency?

I know my party.

The Romans used to have a way of instilling backbone, called decimation, where they would randomly kill every tenth man in a regiment that showed lack of courage. I'm ready to try that with the Democrats in the Senate.

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Godzilla1960 wrote:

The Romans used to have a way of instilling backbone, called decimation, where they would randomly kill every tenth man in a regiment that showed lack of courage. I'm ready to try that with the Democrats in the Senate.

One of my biggest pet peeves is when people use the word decimate incorrectly...especially professional broadcasters :lol:

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