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NYIntensity
 Post subject: Soda tax fails
PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:18 am 
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Proposed- ... -budgeting

My take? Government programs should stop spending so much on the obese.

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WTF is soda? Soda water is being taxed now? Ice cream sodas?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:23 am 
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NYIntensity wrote:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Proposed-soda-tax-falls-flat-apf-1314402265.html?x=0&.v=1&.pf=banking-budgeting&mod=pf-banking-budgeting

My take? Government programs should stop spending so much on the obese.


:shock: W.T.F.

A soda tax. Seriously. This is fucked.

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 Post subject: Re: Soda tax fails
PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:26 am 
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This has been in the works for months now, I remember how angry I was when I first heard of it.

Still pissed? Yep.

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There has been talk of this in NY. Same argument about how the money is intended to help the obese, but in reality they're just trying to fill holes in the general budget.


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 Post subject: Re: Soda tax fails
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I remember months ago hearing how it would affect regular and not diet sodas. Dunno if that's still the case :/

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End The Curse wrote:
WTF is soda? Soda water is being taxed now? Ice cream sodas?


Dairy items are not taxable. :D

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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
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WTF is soda? Soda water is being taxed now? Ice cream sodas?


Dairy items are not taxable. :D

No wonder it failed. Thank God they aren't trying to tax pop.

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I don't really have an issue with a soda tax. I drink soda regularly, but if it got to be a burden, I'd just find something else to drink.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:33 pm 
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eh, we have to pay a 10 cent deposit anyways. no biggy, in my eyes.

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End The Curse wrote:
PuckSniperPensel wrote:
End The Curse wrote:
WTF is soda? Soda water is being taxed now? Ice cream sodas?


Dairy items are not taxable. :D

No wonder it failed. Thank God they aren't trying to tax pop.

That's what I'm sayin, dude! I mean, as long as they don't start taxing pop, I think we'll be OK.

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This whole concept of picking one item and taxing (or banning) it pisses me off. Seriously, why not start a tax on donuts? Pizza? Cake? McDonald's? Where does it end? It's just another fucking money grab by political assholes who can't conceptualize actually spending in line with what you take in. And they throw it around like some jacked up moron who just won the lottery because it's not coming out of their pockets. What the fuck do they care? Oh, another cool million for some pet project (or, more likely, a payoff for some campaign contributor or fellow pork shoveling politician)? Well, just start a new tax. Like the money comes from nowhere. These people are totally out of touch with reality. I hope they all die of sonic diahrrea.

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Tax on pop? Who would even think of something so stupid?

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Welcome to NYS politics, pk

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 Post subject: Re: Soda tax fails
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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
eh, we have to pay a 10 cent deposit anyways. no biggy, in my eyes.


I'm not sure that's a good parallel. You get your deposit back, you don't get your tax back. :)


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Squanto wrote:
ironyisadeadscene wrote:
eh, we have to pay a 10 cent deposit anyways. no biggy, in my eyes.


I'm not sure that's a good parallel. You get your deposit back, you don't get your tax back. :)


At least in NY they still keep that sort of fair.
In California, you pay the deposit per bottle just like everywhere else, but they pay back the redemption by weight, not by bottle.
So the state gets to skim off of that too.

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 Post subject: Re: Soda tax fails
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Yikes...that's a terrible deal.


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so its "pop" over there too? thieves :P stealing our regional dialect.

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I've always called it pop, as well. A bud of mine moved home from being a music/Jazz instructor in Texas 2 years ago. He was down there for a good 4 years and developed the southern drawl and everything. He kept calling pop, soda. I was sure my mind was going to explode. I just couldn't wrap my brain around it. Since then, I've learned to accept the term but will never use it as part of my vocabulary. It's pop, goddamn it! And it's still retarded to have a tax on it, whatever you want call it! lol

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 Post subject: Re: Soda tax fails
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i always called it "pop" till highschool. then i started calling it soda, to be a little different. and its stuck ever since.

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