http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/2 ... 75616.html

I'm not normally a fan of the NCAA, but I like what they did here.

Good.

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I like it

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...because banner ads on the NCAA website make friends and influence people...

OK, try to follow me here...I serve up to a billion ads a day...

If you know anything about how ad networks work, this is an invented story.

Focus on the family didn't buy ad space specifically on the NCAA site...they pay by millions of impressions and their ad gets distributed to any sites in the ad network that want to get payed for displaying ads...like the NCAA, or abortionsRus, or this one.

Someone at the NCAA saw 1 particular ad at 1 particular moment...had a cow...called their website guy who then called their ad network and had them opt-opt of 1 frigging ad.

This is a stupid non-story.

The real story is why does the NCAA feel the need to generate revenue from their web site?
I guess the other story is why do the folks at HuffPo...who know how ad networks work...stir the pot with this crap?

Oh right...they're no better than Fox News.

EDIT: I'll refine my statement a bit.
Yes, it is would be possible for focus on the family to target a specific site with ads, but that practice is usually prohibitively expensive, but regardless, it's up to the NCAA to define what is or is not appropriate...ahead of time.
I'm pretty sure they don't allow hardcore porn ads either...political and social activist ads are just as easy to opt-out of.

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That's not accurate Ed.

Focus on the Family bought a Super Bowl commercial from CBS Sports. That contact included banner ads.

CBS Sports maintains the NCAA website (why I have no idea), and placed the FotF ad in the rotation for the NCAA website. Multiple folks involved with college sports saw it, had objections to it, and asked that it be removed.

This wasn't a generic ad network,this was advertising sold directly by CBS.

HuffPo does post some pretty slanted commentary from time to time, but this certainly was not it.

Where do you see that deal detailed?
The NCAA should have the problem with CBS and not FotF.

It also seems really seedy that a collegiate sports administration has advertising and network deals with a giant TV network.

It's obviously for profit so don't get bent out of shape when people use money to push their agenda.

This is akin to leaving your car unlocked and running outside of a Raiders football game then getting upset when someone steals it.

Weak.

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Also, check the bottom of NCAA.com.



Most things the NCAA does are seedy. They are in the business of making money, and they do it on the backs of student athletes who are subjected to draconian rules about their opportunities to make money. They're the college athletics version of the IOC.

That statement alone should make this a non-story.
If the NCAA originally failed in their due diligence, don't raise a stink about it after the fact.

The fact that they ran ads at all rubbed me the wrong way...now to hear the thing is all brokered, bought and paid for makes me downright angry.

It's a perfect racket...sell a product and be required by law not to pay your workers (student athletes).

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I figure a scholarship could be considered payment enough...

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I don't think it's law that prevents student athletes from being paid. Those are the NCAA's own regulations.

They try to play it off as the NCAA 'protecting amateur athletics', but it's a total scam. Programs that make money for the NCAA are allowed much larger latitude when it comes to violations than smaller D-1 schools that don't bring in the dough.

Scholarships come from the individual schools.

As far as I can tell the NCAA is now a for-profit organization.


Well, same difference...NCAA makes money on the backs of people that are barred from getting compensated.

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Well, it's probably a small committee at best reviewing the ads, and some faculty expressed concerns. It's not like the people that raised a fuss were the ones reviewing it in the first place.

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I'm confused, the message was completely innocuous - a simple pro-family message of a father loving his son. Am I missing something? Does this mean unless an organization advocates for an alternative lifestyle agenda they are banned from advertising with the NCAA?

Oh, I get it, the organization is CHRISTIAN, which according to the NCAA is synonymous with "bigoted haters". Censor and ban them at once! Bring in the PC police and have them arrested! I heard they may even be whacked out Global Warming Deniers, too!

Oh, wait, you know who else is a Christian and doesn't support gay marriage? Barrack Obama. Wonder if his ads will be banned, too?

This quote gives it all away:



Pat Griffin, the "consultant" to the NCAA who successfully campaigned to get the ad banned, is a radical fucktard extremist, and if the NCAA were the least bit honest they would either allow equal representation of both right and left political extremes, or equally ban them all from participation.

BTW, here is fucktard Pat Griffin's official signature: http://www.outsports.com/women/20040323 ... ejones.htm

Pat Griffin
Lesbian Educator and Proud Activist
http://www.lesbianandgaysports.com

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I don't agree with your assessment.

The NCAA has a policy of acceptance when it comes to homosexuality, including homosexual relationships.

FotF is on record as strongly against homosexuality, and homosexual relationships.

The two bodies have opposing positions. The NCAA chose not to accept advertising from an organization that advocates an opposing viewpoint.

As they said, it was about the messenger, not the message.

Right...so the story here isn't: "ZOMG, an anti-abortion ad on our site!!"
It's more like: "we fucked up but we're going to complain publicly about it anyway."

*sigh*

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No, this was exactly my assessment, Squanto - just colored with multiple "fucktards" for entertainment value. My beef is with why the fuck the NCAA needs to get involved at all in the gay rights/abortion rights debate in the first place. I would be just as offended if they openly sanctioned the right-to-life/traditional marriage position. It is absolutely NOT their place to wade into the most divisive issues in America, become an activist for one side, and effectively tell half the population they are wrong and ban them.

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Oh lord, it's hard to be humble, when you're perfect in every way. I can't wait to look in the mirror, 'cause I get better looking each day. To know me is to love me, I must be a hell of a man. Oh lord, it's hard to be humble, but I'm doin' the best that I can.

....would they allow an ad from planned parenthood on their site....


/I've got $10 that says yes.

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Um... I call Bullshit? Your kidding right? That in no way discriminates against gays in ANY WAY. The thing is with messages that are not spoken, is a person can interpret them in any way he wants, and the mood of the person has a huge influence on that. The guy who reported this ad was most likely having a bad day, misinterpreted the message and went to report what he thought was right.. I mean come on just cuz it says "I want my son growing up knowing he did the right thing" ? IT COULD BE ANYTHING if it was directed towards gays I think they would have made that more clear, because to me, that looks like "I want my son growing up, doing the right thing, so he can be a good person in life and not some asshole on the street" Every father wants whats best for his son, you dads out there cant disagree with that...

And if the reason is they took it down not what the message said but because of the messenger? Isnt that invoking on their right to free speech? I believe so, If I post something on here that you guys dont like but it was my opinion or view on something your not going to scream bloody murder over it and demand it be erased because it was completely absurd on every level and i was directly trying to discriminate against someone or something...


All Im saying is there are making something out of nothing and this whole thing is total bull shit.

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The issue isn't with the ad itself, it's with the values of the organization.

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Even so, its a sports organization banning an ad that has nothing to do with anything except for a father wanting his son raised right.. so whats the problem? Just because its FotF they are going to be like... Oh they are against homosexuality so we arent going to let them post their ads here... Still infringing on free speech... am I wrong?

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