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In ETC's case alledging that the Sabres are soft, how do you rule?
Poll ended at Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:56 am
1. Guilty (Soft). 59%  59%  [ 23 ]
2. Not guilty (NOT Soft). 41%  41%  [ 16 ]
Total votes : 39
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Timbo Slice
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sensfan_101 wrote:
I've been a Sabres fan since they came into the league in 1970. When Ottawa landed a team in the early 90's i become a Sens fan 1st and a Sabres fan 2nd. IMHO the Sabres have shown to be a soft team over the last couple of years. They get pushed around some nights and I don't see them sticking up for one another very often.

IMHO only a handful of players on the team (Kaleta, Mair, Ellis, Gaustad) want anything to do with physical contact. The others wish it wasn’t part of the game.


You speak the truth. :(


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jordano wrote:
ETC you make me sick. I think you should just become a Leafs fan and be apart of Burke's belligerent, truculent and pugnacious system. That will quench your thirst for a hitting team.

Everytime the Sabres lose I know I'll have to read your bullshit. A title most likely saying 'No Heart', 'Gutless' or 'Softies'. I challenge you to write a thread that congratulates a Sabres win. Can't do it can ya? You'll simply malfunction by the sight of positive words.


Haha relax. He's right to an extent. Maybe not as far as he's taken it, but anytime your goaltender gets run and the reaction is mild, it'll raise questions.

Sometimes, you have to remember that everyone here wants the same thing for the Sabres; and that's a Stanley Cup. ETC believes that there's an issue that needs to be addressed in order for that dream to become a reality. He may be right.

I don't think the whole roster needs an overhaul. I think a 1-2 player swing would do the trick with the right people going out, and the right people coming in.

I think that there are other factors involved in the reaction that prevented the game from blowing up. If the Sabres are down 4-0 in that game, the reaction to that play would have been very different.

But when you struggle to beat a team who is on top of their game and chasing you in the standings, you don't want to give them any power plays or opportunities to take control.

I know some people are upset that Myers was the one to address the situation, but realistically, who better than him? He's the biggest guy on our team, and that will be a huge part of his role as a Sabre.

Do people overreact to stretches like this? Absolutely. They happen to all teams.

Does it mean that it isn't a good idea to observe what's going on in these stretches and draw conclusions about the team? Not necessarily. Your weaknesses show better when things aren't going your way.

That said, I'm not worried about it. Darcy has made a trade deadline deal in 9 out of the past 10 seasons. Sometimes they're good, sometimes they're alright. But they've never actually hurt the team.

Lets just take a deep breath, look at the big picture, and get through this stretch so we can move on to greener pastures.

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End The Curse wrote:
sensfan_101 wrote:
I've been a Sabres fan since they came into the league in 1970. When Ottawa landed a team in the early 90's i become a Sens fan 1st and a Sabres fan 2nd. IMHO the Sabres have shown to be a soft team over the last couple of years. They get pushed around some nights and I don't see them sticking up for one another very often.

IMHO only a handful of players on the team (Kaleta, Mair, Ellis, Gaustad) want anything to do with physical contact. The others wish it wasn’t part of the game.

Nicely said, and properly observed.


Then again, he probably doesn't see many Sabres games outside the Sabres-Senators games... so yeah, that'd be a pretty accurate observation. :D

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AudSabres wrote:
jordano wrote:
I challenge you to write a thread that congratulates a Sabres win. Can't do it can ya? You'll simply malfunction by the sight of positive words.


Uh, we have to do one very important thing for him to provide an epic thread prasing our Sabres....

We need to win. :shifty:

Cause we certainly haven't done that 32 times this year. You make it sounds like we're a basement team or something.

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End The Curse wrote:
sensfan_101 wrote:
I've been a Sabres fan since they came into the league in 1970. When Ottawa landed a team in the early 90's i become a Sens fan 1st and a Sabres fan 2nd. IMHO the Sabres have shown to be a soft team over the last couple of years. They get pushed around some nights and I don't see them sticking up for one another very often.

IMHO only a handful of players on the team (Kaleta, Mair, Ellis, Gaustad) want anything to do with physical contact. The others wish it wasn’t part of the game.

Nicely said, and properly observed.


I agree. I am not saying this team is doomed, by any stretch...but most of our players are a little too small, and too cute with the puck. We are last in the league in hits the last time I checked. That doesn't go unnoticed by the rest of the league. We can be easily pushed around.


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AudSabres wrote:
We lose tonight, and it's a big fucking problem. Pretty bad when we have to rely on the Laffs to keep the Sens off our backs. :?


Every other team did end up helping us tonight. Habs beat Pens, Rags beat NJ, and Toronto slaughtered the Sens.
We so desperately need the Olympic break. It couldn't come soon enough.

jordano wrote:
I think you should just become a Leafs fan and be apart of Burke's belligerent, truculent and pugnacious system. That will quench your thirst for a hitting team.


I know ^that^ wasn't directed at me, but the Leafs have really been trying to do something since their trades/acquisitions. I think they've done a marvelous job. I was heartbroken for them when they lost Friday to NJ. I celebrated right along with them on Saturday with that ass-whooping of the Sens. I'm happy for their fans. I really am.


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jordano
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SchonyGal wrote:
AudSabres wrote:
We lose tonight, and it's a big fucking problem. Pretty bad when we have to rely on the Laffs to keep the Sens off our backs. :?


Every other team did end up helping us tonight. Habs beat Pens, Rags beat NJ, and Toronto slaughtered the Sens.
We so desperately need the Olympic break. It couldn't come soon enough.

jordano wrote:
I think you should just become a Leafs fan and be apart of Burke's belligerent, truculent and pugnacious system. That will quench your thirst for a hitting team.


I know ^that^ wasn't directed at me, but the Leafs have really been trying to do something since their trades/acquisitions. I think they've done a marvelous job. I was heartbroken for them when they lost Friday to NJ. I celebrated right along with them on Saturday with that ass-whooping of the Sens. I'm happy for their fans. I really am.

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm happy for them too. My whole family are Leafs fans. I was just sick of ETC so I suggested to him to become a Leafs fan :lol:

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SchonyGal wrote:
but the Leafs have really been trying to do something since their trades/acquisitions. I'm happy for their fans. I really am.

Strange as it sounds, I am too. Maybe it just reminded me of a time when trades happened to shake teams up, and they worked sometimes for BOTH teams. Sad it doesn't happen as much anymore, and even sadder that I have to hear some tool(hint, he's a GM) tell me that it's ALWAYS better to build your team from within. I'm not a 4 year old, and I've been watching the game for more than a year and a half, so please, you do your GM'ing, and I'll form MY OWN opinions accordingly.

That being said, TOR may blow up worse than they were before, but at least they tried something. They could have sold their fans the "building from within" crap for 3 years, which I'm sure they would have really enjoyed.


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the word "pussy" is used far to much in this thread, so to counteract...

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...that is all, good day

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Did Some One Say Guts?

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Uh...yup.

Them look like some pretty soft guts to me...

*pukes just a little*

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Montalo wrote:
Did Some One Say Guts?



That's pretty disturbing to look at.

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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Montalo wrote:
Did Some One Say Guts?



That's pretty disturbing to look at.

Yum! Sausage on special all this week at ETC's Pub!

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Yeah...that pic was ... a little much.


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GUILTY AS CHARGED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks Squanto for editing Mo's post, I've seen enough "guts" in my life. Anyway, I thought the Sabres changed at the beginning of this season. They were hitting hard and standing up for each other. Now things have steadily become worse. The thing that cemented it for me was when miller was ran and Myers was the only one to stand up.
It was nice to see ETC's sig with Stafford fighting (I didn't get to see it since I was stuck in a hotel with a bunch of my co-workers getting drunk :handgestures-thumbupright: :dance: :obscene-drinkingdrunk: ) but I want to see that more. I want to see hard hits from everyone from our first line forwards to our fourth line grinders.

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Sabresindc, the sad thing about that game was aside from that fight they just pounded the snot out of us along the glass. Dominated us physically. I watched the Columbus broadcast and they brought up the fact that the Sabres are the least physical team in the NHL, and that the Jackets were taking advantage of it.

Final Poll Results: 59%-41% of Sabres Junkies believe that the Sabres are too soft.

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End The Curse wrote:
Sabresinc, the sad thing about that game was aside from that fight they just pounded the snot out of us along the glass. Dominated us physically. I watched the Columbus broadcast and they brought up the fact that the Sabres are the least physical team in the NHL, and that the Jackets were taking advantage of it.

Final Poll Results: 59%-41% of Sabres Junkies believe that the Sabres are too soft.

That's what happens during the Ottawa games too. These teams know how to rattle the Sabres, by dominating them physically. Remember when the season started, we were all surprised on how fast and hard hitting they were. We were excited about it because we knew that was a huge missing part....now, they're the same ole team :cry:

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Here's how the Sabres respond to Miller being run when they're up by two goals instead of trying to get back into a hockey game:


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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
"It's okay baby Umberger... everything's going to be alright."

:lol:
pure awesome.

Seriously though, that fight gave me alot more respect for Drew. If he keeps up that passion and that emotion he'll develop to his potential. He needs to tap into that drive before its too late.


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