Hope everyone had a superawesomefabulous Easter today

While I agree with your sentiment Max, I don't agree with your approach. Not 'naming' anyone is the same as naming them, which is douchery. We've lost some of our best posters due to momentary douchery. There's been a few threads lately where people have been hollerin' at one another(not even in the political threads). Sometimes we need to think twice before we type. I'm not making any deal of this, just a friendly gesture.

...and oh ya, Happy Easter.

Love your enemies. Its a common occurance in the new Testiment. lol. Seems rather fitting. In fact instead of a bible verse today.

LESSON OF THE DAY: LOVE YOUR ENEMY. Something I think we all on this board could be doing in some way or another.

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LETS GO BUFFALO!

Certain members are young though, and will grow up one way or the other. I wouldn't worry too much about it, other than ignoring it when it pops up from time to time.

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I went to church on Easter Sunday for the first time since Christmas Eve (a service I truly enjoy). It wasn't a bad service. The only reason I consent to go is that the Pastor is a family friend, good guy, and generally gives a sermon worth listening to.

But (and I'm not trying to be a jerk) I find church to be creepy and a bit mindless, especially when reading in unison, it sounds so weird. It's like 70% following guidelines and 30% actual thinking (The readings and sermon).

That's how I always saw it as a kid. I'd look through the bulletin, and its like okay we have to read these four things and sing these two songs until we get something interesting, like a reading, then another song or whatever and the gospel and sermon, etc.

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Ya I mean like... sometimes you should take a step back and think about what you are saying and doing, but I feel like a lot of people do think about it. I guess its all in a matter of perspective.

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Maybe a different church is in order then? I remember the unison readings from when I was a kid, and it was a bit odd. The Church I attend now is like, opposite end of the spectrum. My pastor brought a goat on stage on Sunday, I kid you not. It was awesome.

Also, I love that love your enemies was on your mind, Rutledge, because I've been consumed with Luke 6:27 lately. Such goodness. In fact, last night I was at Delaware Park with a couple of my friends and just chillin out on a blanket, and someone was reading that when we got egged. At first we were like 'what the heck' and then the irony of what we had just read hit us and it was just a fit of laughter. Good stuff

I just realized that Christians will wake up before sunrise on Easter...Kind of like paganism isn't it?

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"...they came down into the stands and asked if I knew how to do play by play. I said...No. But. I'll take a shot at it if you want".- Rick Jeanneret

right...or it has to do with the fact that in the resurrection story mary magdeline got to the tomb before the sun rose to realize that Jesus wasnt there....

how is doing that pagan?

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"That wasn't very nice...I do believe you killed my hat."

Driver of the FIRE LINDY RUFF Bandwagon since 2008.

I know it has to do with the resurrection...Wouldn't it make more sense to do something like that when the sun rises in Jerusalem?

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No, I think no church is in order. My beliefs largely coincide with Wiccan beliefs, and I also don't really believe in a congregational expression of religion.

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i went to church for the first time in a year and a half on easter (i skipped last easter because i went to a white sox game and i was working on christmas when my family went) and the mass was kind of a mess. the priest was old as shit and his little speech in the middle made no sense at all. he started talking about how when you get older you dont remember things and how when he moved at the age of 5 he remember doing it at the age of 6 and thinks he can remember remembering it at his current age of 71 and somehow ended up at jesus breaking bread...i dont know. then the guy who helps the priest (not the deacon but the guy who dresses normally) looked like a stereotypical mexican with the high hair, stach and cowboy boots and he sounded like Pedro from Napoleon Dynamite. One of the ushers didnt know the concept of going around the back to seat people so he would have everyone come down the middle and cut across in front of the alter to go to either side. plus in the songs we would get random instruments like a trumpet, electric guitar that just sounded off.

it was an hr long face palm.

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"That wasn't very nice...I do believe you killed my hat."

Driver of the FIRE LINDY RUFF Bandwagon since 2008.

Or hmm, maybe it has to do with the fact that as Christianity made its way across the globe, it killed local heathen worshippers and then pilfered their traditions, modifying them enough to conform with Christian dogma so that any locals who weren't killed would convert easier.

Even the names are stolen. Eostre, Easter.

Shit, St. Patrick driving the snakes out of Ireland is an allegory for forcing the druids to convert. There have never, ever been snakes that were indigenous to Ireland at any point in history.

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i was talking about waking up before sunrise being pagan.

as for Christianities pilfering; i am well aware of the whole stealing traditions to make assimilation less painful tactic. just about every aspect of Christianity is that way. from the Garden of Eden being stolen from the Epic of Gilgamesh to Jesus being born in December.

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"That wasn't very nice...I do believe you killed my hat."

Driver of the FIRE LINDY RUFF Bandwagon since 2008.

Oh, sorry, got off on one of my rants.

Yea, I have no idea how that's pagan, other than there maybe being a celebration directed toward Lugh, the sun god.

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I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

Philippians 3:14


This is how I keep focus on the endgame. Eternal life in heaven.

I was mainly being an ass about Pagans and sunrise worshipping. I don't know much about them other than they had to convert or whatever.

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Don't forget Ostara.

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I have a serious question for you guys, no razzing here. My wife is a Baptist though she hasn't gone to church in a long time and she's been thinking about going back. I on the other hand am a total non-believer. We have discussed how we need to respect each other when it comes time to explain to the kids the difference between our views and I was wondering if anyone has gone through this before. I'm not here to bash your personal choices, just to explain how mine differ and see how I should handle this with the kids. My non-belief is just as important as my wife's faith. I believe in evolution and science. I of course hold very important the beliefs of treating people with respect and doing good things in my life. When it comes to teaching my kids about God I take issue with it because I don't believe in a shred of the spiritual stuff and don't want to pass on an idea that I see as a tall tale, though I do think that the lessons of behavior within the bible are positive ones. I grew up in the Presbyterian church and went very far in their youth leadership programs, heading to the Synod in NY and the General Assembly after. It was a safe, fun place to spend my weekends (youth group, summer camp, scouts, etc) but when I grew up I found that I just couldn't swim with the core beliefs of an all powerful being and the spiritual stuff.

So my question again is how do you mingle two opposite opinions like this when it comes to your children?

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My dad doesn't believe in religion, so he was lazy and pretty much let my mom do whatever. I began going to church regularly at around the age of 7, and continued all through high school, as did my sisters. Myself and my youngest sister do not believe in religion, and my middle sister goes to church regularly even at college so it's pretty hit or miss.

Basically, I think as long as you don't present one or the other as right or wrong, your kids are going to end up deciding for themselves where their beliefs lie, which is exactly what you want.

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