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ironyisadeadscene
PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:30 pm 
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Our three best FA's in the past 3 years were Rivet and Montador? And Grier? Rivet and Grier are in their mid 30's, and Montador isn't very good.


they traded for rivet.

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I'm saying this. Darcy hasn't signed anyone in 3 years, so he is either unable to or is just a bad GM. But why wont we fire him? Other teams fire their GMs when they don't make it to the playoffs! We have missed the playoffs for 2 years then kicked in the first round, and he is STILL around! No deals happen, then fire him. It should have been done.

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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
BlueandYellow wrote:
Our three best FA's in the past 3 years were Rivet and Montador? And Grier? Rivet and Grier are in their mid 30's, and Montador isn't very good.


they traded for rivet.

Oh yeah.

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I dont like it that Loods is gone...

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BlueandYellow wrote:
I'm saying this. Darcy hasn't signed anyone in 3 years, so he is either unable to or is just a bad GM. But why wont we fire him? Other teams fire their GMs when they don't make it to the playoffs! We have missed the playoffs for 2 years then kicked in the first round, and he is STILL around! No deals happen, then fire him. It should have been done.


Many of us agree with ya man. A lot of teams would have fired some people if they were in our situation.

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Displaced, I come from the angle that we don't know all the details, so it's almost impossible to make a confident judgement about free agency offers/non-offers. You and others want so badly to hang someone, that you'll assume it's all about Darcy just so you have someone to point a finger at.

The best way to judge a GM is by trades, because everything is apparent in that process. We see what each team wanted or were willing to accept in a trade, and then we see the results a few years later. Darcy done a pretty good job over the years with trades. In free agency, we never know what the player's thoughts were, or what management was willing to offer anybody unless it actually happens. Regier isn't the one that all of a sudden made Buffalo unattractive for big name UFAs. Regier didn't make the Sabres profit margin incapable of taking on more than a few big time contracts - it's been that way forever.

I can guarantee that no matter who the Sabres GM is, he'll get the same people complaining with the same thing every year. It's not all about Regier...it just isn't.


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Yay the big story off facebook right now for the Sabres fan page is some street hockey event in Aug.

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I don't want to yell at people, I don't want to start insults, I want to remain calm, but nothing is being done and the Sabres are not going to win a cup at this rate. I long for seeing the cup in Buffalo but the management just wants to wait 10 years for our guys to develop into something they wont develop into. It pisses me off.

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Sabresfansince1980 wrote:
Displaced, I come from the angle that we don't know all the details, so it's almost impossible to make a confident judgement about free agency offers/non-offers. You and others want so badly to hang someone, that you'll assume it's all about Darcy just so you have someone to point a finger at.

The best way to judge a GM is by trades, because everything is apparent in that process. We see what each team wanted or were willing to accept in a trade, and then we see the results a few years later. Darcy done a pretty good job over the years with trades. In free agency, we never know what the player's thoughts were, or what management was willing to offer anybody unless it actually happens. Regier isn't the one that all of a sudden made Buffalo unattractive for big name UFAs. Regier didn't make the Sabres profit margin incapable of taking on more than a few big time contracts - it's been that way forever.

I can guarantee that no matter who the Sabres GM is, he'll get the same people complaining with the same thing every year. It's not all about Regier...it just isn't.



Name some trades that got us good players. We got Torres this year. And he was benched!

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I'm usually the pillar of optimism during these times but I just see us not getting anyone.. not doing anything.. kinda sick of it.. And why arent my sabre updates working they should tell me this shit.

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i dont know if its been posted but according to mckenzie lydman signed in anaheim 9million/3years
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It has been spread far and wide that you shouldn't go to Buffalo because the magagment won't don what it takes to win. What is the solution to that?

Who knows, because if he is going after Free Agents doesn't that mean they have the commitment to winning?

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As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.
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Well now with Pittsburgh done can Darcy please get Hamhuis RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sabresfansince1980 wrote:
Displaced, I come from the angle that we don't know all the details, so it's almost impossible to make a confident judgement about free agency offers/non-offers. You and others want so badly to hang someone, that you'll assume it's all about Darcy just so you have someone to point a finger at.

The best way to judge a GM is by trades, because everything is apparent in that process. We see what each team wanted or were willing to accept in a trade, and then we see the results a few years later. Darcy done a pretty good job over the years with trades. In free agency, we never know what the player's thoughts were, or what management was willing to offer anybody unless it actually happens. Regier isn't the one that all of a sudden made Buffalo unattractive for big name UFAs. Regier didn't make the Sabres profit margin incapable of taking on more than a few big time contracts - it's been that way forever.

I can guarantee that no matter who the Sabres GM is, he'll get the same people complaining with the same thing every year. It's not all about Regier...it just isn't.


Wait, you said you don't know all the details, yet you guarantee that Darcy isn't to blame???

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Well now with Pittsburgh done can Darcy please get Hamhuis RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


thats what im hoping. high five, eh?

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See B&Y, you first responded to my other post with a ridiculous exaggeration - that NO UFAs ever signed in Buffalo. Now you say name a good trade that Darcy made, as if there never were any.

Don't respond with off the cliff exaggerations from the opposite point of view. It shows you just aren't willing or aren't capable right now of having a reasonable discussion.
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Bauter88 wrote:
And why arent my sabre updates working they should tell me this shit.

They probably are working. There ARE NO UPDATES.

We get weaker, and other teams spend money TRYING to get better, then I laugh my balls off when posters say, "they are all wasting their money". hahahaha
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BlueandYellow wrote:
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Some of you guys have to accept, in the midst of your hateration, that UFAs have a choice to play where they want to. For many of them it doesn't matter what another GM offers if they want to play somehwere in particular or with someone in particular.

These are details we usually never know about. Don't ANY of you guys think about this stuff while fuming over Darcy and the front office? It's a serious question, because these rages dominate this forum and very few, if any, show any deep thought about the topic - just venting by keyboard.


Okay, no fucking UFA wants to come here? Not one decent UFA for the past 3 years soon 4? Fucking excuses and no one thinks about hey maybe he should be kicked the fuck out? UFA'S used to come here all the time and trades happened! So why the hell did that stop?


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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
patkane88 wrote:
Well now with Pittsburgh done can Darcy please get Hamhuis RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


thats what im hoping. high five, eh?


Yes High five 8-)

It would make sense Hamhuis in Buffalo now with Lydman gone, I'd pay anything for him to be in Blue and Gold

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sound like hammy power in vancouver though.

ANTON VOLCHENKOV PLZ.

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