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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:40 pm 
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Aren't they just going to buy him out? Or would they put him through waivers now so his contract doesn't count towards next year's cap then?

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Buying him out would put his salary on the cap even though he's gone. Burying him in OKC would keep his contract in place, but it'd be off the books and wouldn't count toward the cap.

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It's because his injury-prone seasons in Edmonton coupled with his public discontent after the signing (which he GLADLY talked up the summer it happened) wore out his stay there and management is sick of him taking up cap space. No GM is gonna take someone just as fragile as Connolly for $500K more.



I thought we were talking about Souray? I think the islanders will snatch him up, but there's about 8 other teams that would love to have him. Columbus really could use him.

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It's because his injury-prone seasons in Edmonton coupled with his public discontent after the signing (which he GLADLY talked up the summer it happened) wore out his stay there and management is sick of him taking up cap space. No GM is gonna take someone just as fragile as Connolly for $500K more.



I thought we were talking about Souray? I think the islanders will snatch him up, but there's about 8 other teams that would love to have him. Columbus really could use him.

We are talking about Souray.

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mechaphil wrote:
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It's because his injury-prone seasons in Edmonton coupled with his public discontent after the signing (which he GLADLY talked up the summer it happened) wore out his stay there and management is sick of him taking up cap space. No GM is gonna take someone just as fragile as Connolly for $500K more.



I thought we were talking about Souray? I think the islanders will snatch him up, but there's about 8 other teams that would love to have him. Columbus really could use him.

We are talking about Souray.



Oh, you mentioned Connolly and I got confused, failed reading comprehension.

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mechaphil wrote:
Buying him out would put his salary on the cap even though he's gone. Burying him in OKC would keep his contract in place, but it'd be off the books and wouldn't count toward the cap.

OKC?

But that's what I thought, it would erase his cap hit but not his salary.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.
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mechaphil wrote:
Buying him out would put his salary on the cap even though he's gone. Burying him in OKC would keep his contract in place, but it'd be off the books and wouldn't count toward the cap.

OKC?

But that's what I thought, it would erase his cap hit but not his salary.

Oklahoma City Barons, the Oilers' new AHL farm team.

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WOW nobody wants Souray? Man...

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Hold on, no one said that. We said we didn't want him at his $4.5M($5.4M cap hit) current price. There's rumblings that EDM might put him up through re-entry waivers, though, and if that happened he'd only cost half. In THAT case, I'd do it immediately!

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hmm, for 2.7, sounds interesting...

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mechaphil wrote:
Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
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Buying him out would put his salary on the cap even though he's gone. Burying him in OKC would keep his contract in place, but it'd be off the books and wouldn't count toward the cap.

OKC?

But that's what I thought, it would erase his cap hit but not his salary.

Oklahoma City Barons, the Oilers' new AHL farm team.

Ok, I didn't know what team it was, I'm not good with the AHL ones.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.
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mechaphil wrote:
Hold on, no one said that. We said we didn't want him at his $4.5M($5.4M cap hit) current price. There's rumblings that EDM might put him up through re-entry waivers, though, and if that happened he'd only cost half. In THAT case, I'd do it immediately!

I would do this immediately as well. So I hope to God that they do indeed put him on re-entry waivers.

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mechaphil wrote:
Hold on, no one said that. We said we didn't want him at his $4.5M($5.4M cap hit) current price. There's rumblings that EDM might put him up through re-entry waivers, though, and if that happened he'd only cost half. In THAT case, I'd do it immediately!



I wasn't referring to this message board not wanting him, but the 29 GMs who didn't grab him up!

If he goes through re-entry SOMEBODY will take him or I will just freak out because that would be too weird. I mean half of his cap hit is 2.7m/year, that's a real bargain for even half a season and playoffs worth of Souray.

EDIT: and he's only got 2 years left on his deal so he will still only be 35. Fits absolutely perfectly with the Sabres long term cap flexibility!

I'll be very excited to see him join the Sabres.

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If he does hit re-entry waivers, I'm right there with ya on wanting him here.

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LeBrun says Edmonton has no interest at all in putting Souray through re-entry waivers.
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Yea, and then a couple of talking heads said they're thinking about it a day after LeBrun said that.

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LeBrun says Edmonton has no interest at all in putting Souray through re-entry waivers.

They don't want to be forced to have 2.7m on their cap hit for two years because they will lose him.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.
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LeBrun says Edmonton has no interest at all in putting Souray through re-entry waivers.

They don't want to be forced to have 2.7m on their cap hit for two years because they will lose him.


Somehow this seems better to me than paying him $5.5 a season to play in the A....

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Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
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LeBrun says Edmonton has no interest at all in putting Souray through re-entry waivers.

They don't want to be forced to have 2.7m on their cap hit for two years because they will lose him.


Somehow this seems better to me than paying him $5.5 a season to play in the A....

Except for the fact that his $4.5M salary doesn't count toward the cap at all if he's in the A ($5.4M is only his cap hit, I found out)

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I don't want Souray, if the worst team in all of the NHL didn't want him I don't want him at all.

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