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 Post subject: Re: Keep playing Enroth?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:15 pm 
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On Enroth, I don't think he's NHL starter material (so getting him experience playing more games in the AHL is kind of moot) but I do think he is better than Patty Lalime at this point, and should be behind Miller.

Do you mean you don't think he will ever be NHL starter material? I think it's a little too early to try and peg where Enroth's career will wind up, so I think in the meantime it's imperative to give him the experience down in the AHL.

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Enroth is 22, with 4 career NHL games under his belt, and one AHL season.

It's too early to say what he will be. Just like it was for Miller at the same age.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:42 pm 
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Maybe he will be. I thought he had been around longer than that.

When you compare him to other NHL goaltenders' first season in the AHL his numbers land right in the middle. Miller had a bit of a leg up stats-wise on Enroth his first season in the AHL though.

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Want a REAL read on Enroth?

Start him tonight against the NYR.

Hard to judge his current ability accurately when the only games he won were against 2 of the worst teams in the league in the past 10 games(and those both went to a SO).

Rangers aren't that good, but they're a solid avergae club right now.


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powerplayer wrote:
Want a REAL read on Enroth?

Start him tonight against the NYR.

Hard to judge his current ability accurately when the only games he won were against 2 of the worst teams in the league in the past 10 games(and those both went to a SO).

Rangers aren't that good, but they're a solid avergae club right now.


That's kind of what I was hoping for, honestly.

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Well, you guys are getting your wish. Enroth is the starter for tonight.

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Well, you guys are getting your wish. Enroth is the starter for tonight.



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the only problem i have with enroth is his size. he would have stopped that shootout goal if only his legs were a bit longer. poor little guy.

he seems shaky at times, but that's to be expected at this point in his career.

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powerplayer wrote:
Want a REAL read on Enroth?

Start him tonight against the NYR.

Hard to judge his current ability accurately when the only games he won were against 2 of the worst teams in the league in the past 10 games(and those both went to a SO).

Rangers aren't that good, but they're a solid avergae club right now.

You got to admit he did buckle it down against the Leafs after he let those two goals in. And he did keep all the shots away in the third yesterday to give the team a chance. As I said before, he needs more playing time in the AHL and he's only 22 and still very young, and will get better.

But even yesterday some of those shots weren't a cake walk easy save, he had plenty of great saves that just robbed the guys clean.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
Enroth is 22, with 4 career NHL games under his belt, and one AHL season.

It's too early to say what he will be. Just like it was for Miller at the same age.

Isn't this Enroth's third season since he crossed the pond to play in NA?

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Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
Enroth is 22, with 4 career NHL games under his belt, and one AHL season.

It's too early to say what he will be. Just like it was for Miller at the same age.

Isn't this Enroth's third season since he crossed the pond to play in NA?

Yea, you're right, he played two AHL seasons already.

But, the thing with Miller was he played college until he was 23-24, then came into the AHL, he was still older then Enroth when he came to the AHL, therefore, he should have had better numbers as he should have been further in his development too.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.


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Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
sabresEH wrote:
Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
Enroth is 22, with 4 career NHL games under his belt, and one AHL season.

It's too early to say what he will be. Just like it was for Miller at the same age.

Isn't this Enroth's third season since he crossed the pond to play in NA?

Yea, you're right, he played two AHL seasons already.

But, the thing with Miller was he played college until he was 23-24, then came into the AHL, he was still older then Enroth when he came to the AHL, therefore, he should have had better numbers as he should have been further in his development too.


i cant do it anymore. i cant lurk and not comment on this retarded ass thread.

miller was a rookie in the AHL at 22. he also played 15 NHL games that year. at 23, his last scheduled AHL season, he struggled in the NHL a few games. he was to become the sabres starter in 04-05, at age 24, but the NHL locked out.

enroth has played admirably in his time this season. ive been rather happy with his play. and im excited to see him more. but his main flaw is lateral movement, which is the cardinal sin of goaltending. you can get away with bad reflexes and even bad positioning. you cant get away with bad lateral movement. and its not something you develop. you either have it, or you dont. he doesnt. doesnt mean he wont be a decent goalie, ray emery is a fantastic example of a goalie with limited mobility can succeed, but caps his potential. the best example from another sport i can give is chad pennington. he had an extremely weak arm, but did everything else well. he had himself a good NFL career, but never was able to get to the next level, because his one weakness was the one weakness you cant get away with.

he plays deep in the net, for a few reasons. 1, hes adjusting to the speed of the game. once hes used to the NHL speed, he wont sit so deep. however, with limited mobility, he will always sit deeper in the crease. also, i think this is because he is from sweden, where goalies do sit deeper due to the wider ice.

enroth has potential to become a decent goalie, in fact, hes already pretty good. but i dont see him as a long term solution.

as for playing him over miller? not a snowballs chance in hell.

hope all is well, i still love reading what you all have to say.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:11 am 
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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
sabresEH wrote:
Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
Enroth is 22, with 4 career NHL games under his belt, and one AHL season.

It's too early to say what he will be. Just like it was for Miller at the same age.

Isn't this Enroth's third season since he crossed the pond to play in NA?

Yea, you're right, he played two AHL seasons already.

But, the thing with Miller was he played college until he was 23-24, then came into the AHL, he was still older then Enroth when he came to the AHL, therefore, he should have had better numbers as he should have been further in his development too.


i cant do it anymore. i cant lurk and not comment on this retarded ass thread.

miller was a rookie in the AHL at 22. he also played 15 NHL games that year. at 23, his last scheduled AHL season, he struggled in the NHL a few games. he was to become the sabres starter in 04-05, at age 24, but the NHL locked out.

enroth has played admirably in his time this season. ive been rather happy with his play. and im excited to see him more. but his main flaw is lateral movement, which is the cardinal sin of goaltending. you can get away with bad reflexes and even bad positioning. you cant get away with bad lateral movement. and its not something you develop. you either have it, or you dont. he doesnt. doesnt mean he wont be a decent goalie, ray emery is a fantastic example of a goalie with limited mobility can succeed, but caps his potential. the best example from another sport i can give is chad pennington. he had an extremely weak arm, but did everything else well. he had himself a good NFL career, but never was able to get to the next level, because his one weakness was the one weakness you cant get away with.

he plays deep in the net, for a few reasons. 1, hes adjusting to the speed of the game. once hes used to the NHL speed, he wont sit so deep. however, with limited mobility, he will always sit deeper in the crease. also, i think this is because he is from sweden, where goalies do sit deeper due to the wider ice.

enroth has potential to become a decent goalie, in fact, hes already pretty good. but i dont see him as a long term solution.

as for playing him over miller? not a snowballs chance in hell.

hope all is well, i still love reading what you all have to say.


yes. i want to see better rebound control, though. otherwise, i'm happy with how enroth has been developing.

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One thing Enroth has going for him in my mind is elevating his game when the time calls for it. He was to Sweden in the World Juniors as Miller was the USA in the 2010 Olympics.

I also like that the team has been forced to play in front of an unproven goaltender. They've improved a lot because of it. One thing I noticed last year is they didn't have to deal with much adversity until the playoffs. They were almost perfectly healthy until Vanek went down, and then they imploded. This year is different. First they imploded, then Miller went down.


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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
sabresEH wrote:
Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
Enroth is 22, with 4 career NHL games under his belt, and one AHL season.

It's too early to say what he will be. Just like it was for Miller at the same age.

Isn't this Enroth's third season since he crossed the pond to play in NA?

Yea, you're right, he played two AHL seasons already.

But, the thing with Miller was he played college until he was 23-24, then came into the AHL, he was still older then Enroth when he came to the AHL, therefore, he should have had better numbers as he should have been further in his development too.


i cant do it anymore. i cant lurk and not comment on this retarded ass thread.

miller was a rookie in the AHL at 22. he also played 15 NHL games that year. at 23, his last scheduled AHL season, he struggled in the NHL a few games. he was to become the sabres starter in 04-05, at age 24, but the NHL locked out.

enroth has played admirably in his time this season. ive been rather happy with his play. and im excited to see him more. but his main flaw is lateral movement, which is the cardinal sin of goaltending. you can get away with bad reflexes and even bad positioning. you cant get away with bad lateral movement. and its not something you develop. you either have it, or you dont. he doesnt. doesnt mean he wont be a decent goalie, ray emery is a fantastic example of a goalie with limited mobility can succeed, but caps his potential. the best example from another sport i can give is chad pennington. he had an extremely weak arm, but did everything else well. he had himself a good NFL career, but never was able to get to the next level, because his one weakness was the one weakness you cant get away with.

he plays deep in the net, for a few reasons. 1, hes adjusting to the speed of the game. once hes used to the NHL speed, he wont sit so deep. however, with limited mobility, he will always sit deeper in the crease. also, i think this is because he is from sweden, where goalies do sit deeper due to the wider ice.

enroth has potential to become a decent goalie, in fact, hes already pretty good. but i dont see him as a long term solution.

as for playing him over miller? not a snowballs chance in hell.

hope all is well, i still love reading what you all have to say.



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fan4life61 wrote:
ironyisadeadscene wrote:
Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
sabresEH wrote:
Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
Enroth is 22, with 4 career NHL games under his belt, and one AHL season.

It's too early to say what he will be. Just like it was for Miller at the same age.

Isn't this Enroth's third season since he crossed the pond to play in NA?

Yea, you're right, he played two AHL seasons already.

But, the thing with Miller was he played college until he was 23-24, then came into the AHL, he was still older then Enroth when he came to the AHL, therefore, he should have had better numbers as he should have been further in his development too.


i cant do it anymore. i cant lurk and not comment on this retarded ass thread.

miller was a rookie in the AHL at 22. he also played 15 NHL games that year. at 23, his last scheduled AHL season, he struggled in the NHL a few games. he was to become the sabres starter in 04-05, at age 24, but the NHL locked out.

enroth has played admirably in his time this season. ive been rather happy with his play. and im excited to see him more. but his main flaw is lateral movement, which is the cardinal sin of goaltending. you can get away with bad reflexes and even bad positioning. you cant get away with bad lateral movement. and its not something you develop. you either have it, or you dont. he doesnt. doesnt mean he wont be a decent goalie, ray emery is a fantastic example of a goalie with limited mobility can succeed, but caps his potential. the best example from another sport i can give is chad pennington. he had an extremely weak arm, but did everything else well. he had himself a good NFL career, but never was able to get to the next level, because his one weakness was the one weakness you cant get away with.

he plays deep in the net, for a few reasons. 1, hes adjusting to the speed of the game. once hes used to the NHL speed, he wont sit so deep. however, with limited mobility, he will always sit deeper in the crease. also, i think this is because he is from sweden, where goalies do sit deeper due to the wider ice.

enroth has potential to become a decent goalie, in fact, hes already pretty good. but i dont see him as a long term solution.

as for playing him over miller? not a snowballs chance in hell.

hope all is well, i still love reading what you all have to say.



:( i miss you


happy belated birthday, by the way man.

dont worry. im sure ill return in some capacity eventually. outside of this of course. just create more ruckus about goaltending, and youll have my undivided attention. hahaha.

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His rebound control will come, Miller was terrible when he first came into the NHL in giving up some bad rebounds, but now when he gives them up he knows where to put them.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
fan4life61 wrote:
ironyisadeadscene wrote:
Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
sabresEH wrote:
Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
Enroth is 22, with 4 career NHL games under his belt, and one AHL season.

It's too early to say what he will be. Just like it was for Miller at the same age.

Isn't this Enroth's third season since he crossed the pond to play in NA?

Yea, you're right, he played two AHL seasons already.

But, the thing with Miller was he played college until he was 23-24, then came into the AHL, he was still older then Enroth when he came to the AHL, therefore, he should have had better numbers as he should have been further in his development too.


i cant do it anymore. i cant lurk and not comment on this retarded ass thread.

miller was a rookie in the AHL at 22. he also played 15 NHL games that year. at 23, his last scheduled AHL season, he struggled in the NHL a few games. he was to become the sabres starter in 04-05, at age 24, but the NHL locked out.

enroth has played admirably in his time this season. ive been rather happy with his play. and im excited to see him more. but his main flaw is lateral movement, which is the cardinal sin of goaltending. you can get away with bad reflexes and even bad positioning. you cant get away with bad lateral movement. and its not something you develop. you either have it, or you dont. he doesnt. doesnt mean he wont be a decent goalie, ray emery is a fantastic example of a goalie with limited mobility can succeed, but caps his potential. the best example from another sport i can give is chad pennington. he had an extremely weak arm, but did everything else well. he had himself a good NFL career, but never was able to get to the next level, because his one weakness was the one weakness you cant get away with.

he plays deep in the net, for a few reasons. 1, hes adjusting to the speed of the game. once hes used to the NHL speed, he wont sit so deep. however, with limited mobility, he will always sit deeper in the crease. also, i think this is because he is from sweden, where goalies do sit deeper due to the wider ice.

enroth has potential to become a decent goalie, in fact, hes already pretty good. but i dont see him as a long term solution.

as for playing him over miller? not a snowballs chance in hell.

hope all is well, i still love reading what you all have to say.



:( i miss you


happy belated birthday, by the way man.

dont worry. im sure ill return in some capacity eventually. outside of this of course. just create more ruckus about goaltending, and youll have my undivided attention. hahaha.


Wait, I think Mike and I agree on Enroth.

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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
sabresEH wrote:
Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
Enroth is 22, with 4 career NHL games under his belt, and one AHL season.

It's too early to say what he will be. Just like it was for Miller at the same age.

Isn't this Enroth's third season since he crossed the pond to play in NA?

Yea, you're right, he played two AHL seasons already.

But, the thing with Miller was he played college until he was 23-24, then came into the AHL, he was still older then Enroth when he came to the AHL, therefore, he should have had better numbers as he should have been further in his development too.


i cant do it anymore. i cant lurk and not comment on this retarded ass thread.

miller was a rookie in the AHL at 22. he also played 15 NHL games that year. at 23, his last scheduled AHL season, he struggled in the NHL a few games. he was to become the sabres starter in 04-05, at age 24, but the NHL locked out.

enroth has played admirably in his time this season. ive been rather happy with his play. and im excited to see him more. but his main flaw is lateral movement, which is the cardinal sin of goaltending. you can get away with bad reflexes and even bad positioning. you cant get away with bad lateral movement. and its not something you develop. you either have it, or you dont. he doesnt. doesnt mean he wont be a decent goalie, ray emery is a fantastic example of a goalie with limited mobility can succeed, but caps his potential. the best example from another sport i can give is chad pennington. he had an extremely weak arm, but did everything else well. he had himself a good NFL career, but never was able to get to the next level, because his one weakness was the one weakness you cant get away with.

he plays deep in the net, for a few reasons. 1, hes adjusting to the speed of the game. once hes used to the NHL speed, he wont sit so deep. however, with limited mobility, he will always sit deeper in the crease. also, i think this is because he is from sweden, where goalies do sit deeper due to the wider ice.

enroth has potential to become a decent goalie, in fact, hes already pretty good. but i dont see him as a long term solution.

as for playing him over miller? not a snowballs chance in hell.

hope all is well, i still love reading what you all have to say.


Hahahahahahahahahaha this is awesome.

I didn't even realize you hadn't been posting until you dropped this bomb.

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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
dont worry. im sure ill return in some capacity eventually. outside of this of course. just create more ruckus about goaltending, and youll have my undivided attention. hahaha.


So all I need to do is start a thread bout your boyfriend Rask that's sucking testicles this year so far?

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