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PuckSniperPensel
 Post subject: Re: Luke Adam
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:25 pm 
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You've never seen a player criticized for not burying a puck into the wide open net?


Yeah, when they miss.

Adam didn't miss.


He didn't bury it. Yankee makes a strong point.

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 Post subject: Re: Luke Adam
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:28 pm 
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Agreed Squanto.

I will say however, I would really have liked Adam to stay in Portland for a full season, if for no other reason than to further hone his skill/talent as well as build his confidence while transitioning to the professional level. Not that he has done all that badly while up with the big club, I just don't want the kid to get in a position where he feels some pressure to perform due to the situation the club is in chasing the playoffs and all. Other wise, I have no complaints about the kids play, he is developing, only he gets to do it in his rookie season with the big club.


I think most people would have liked to see Adam stay in the AHL for a bit. Unfortunately injuries happen, and he was forced up. Not much you can do about that.

Yea, I know. And he hasn't disappointed. (I will admit success where necessary, for the comment I'm about to make), It appears as though, atleast early on, that Regier and his staff made a good selection in the second round with Adam. (Dammit, that was extremely hard to say ;) )

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 Post subject: Re: Luke Adam
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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
He didn't bury it. Yankee makes a strong point.


No, he doesn't.

999 times out of 1000 that shot is a goal. This one wasn't because of a fluke stick being in the way. Adam did the right thing. The puck was away from his body, and goalie was down. He shot quick. Had he pussy footed around and brought the puck in to a position where he could elevate it, the goalie would have more than likely recovered, and people would be mother fucking him for waiting so long to shoot.

If I'm there, with an open net like that, I'm shooting fast. My coaches as a kid would have stapled my ass to the bench for a week if I tried to get fancy with it.

Have we become so arrogant as fans that we are going to start deciding how good goals are? We're going to start commenting that Player X scored on a play, but he's no good because he went 5 hole instead of top shelf?

The bottom line is that Luke Adam was in the correct place at the correct time and made the correct play. It was very unlucky for him to have hit Ennis' stick. That's it.


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 Post subject: Re: Luke Adam
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:53 pm 
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Squanto wrote:
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He didn't bury it. Yankee makes a strong point.


No, he doesn't.

999 times out of 1000 that shot is a goal. This one wasn't because of a fluke stick being in the way. Adam did the right thing. The puck was away from his body, and goalie was down. He shot quick. Had he pussy footed around and brought the puck in to a position where he could elevate it, the goalie would have more than likely recovered, and people would be mother fucking him for waiting so long to shoot.

If I'm there, with an open net like that, I'm shooting fast. My coaches as a kid would have stapled my ass to the bench for a week if I tried to get fancy with it.

Have we become so arrogant as fans that we are going to start deciding how good goals are? We're going to start commenting that Player X scored on a play, but he's no good because he went 5 hole instead of top shelf?

The bottom line is that Luke Adam was in the correct place at the correct time and made the correct play. It was very unlucky for him to have hit Ennis' stick. That's it.


Yeah, he does.

He didn't need to take more time to elevate it, Squanto. He was already in good position. He didn't have to pull it back or anything. An extra flick of the wrist is all it would have taken.

I see opportunities to score get blown ALL THE TIME because a body or a stick is laying down in the crease and a player failed to elevate it. That wasn't a fluke play. Players end up in the crease behind the goaltender quite often.

Proven goal scorers know that and do it. Briere was awesome at it.

Luke is a rookie and he'll pick up on it.

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 Post subject: Re: Luke Adam
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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
He didn't need to take more time to elevate it, Squanto. He was already in good position. He didn't have to pull it back or anything. An extra flick of the wrist is all it would have taken.


Watch the play Adam. His arms were fully extended just to get the puck. You cannot flick your wrists from that position and and elevate the puck. He would have had to pull the puck in closer to his body to do.

Whatever. This argument is pointless. I full expect to read more unreasonable criticism for the rest of the year as the team performs poorly.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:04 pm 
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YankeeInRaleigh wrote:
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Adam was the 3rd man in on the rush. Wasn't somebody posting about our depth on the rush recently? How they were all getting to the net at the same time and that's why we weren't scoring on our rebound chances?



haha, man I was thinking the EXACT same thing when he popped that in. And it has been true, they've been approaching the net kind of strangely, all in a line, and then are basically too deep to deal with rebounds. On Adams goal it was so beautifully staggered/timed for a good rebound chance, they sort of swooped in there 1 2 3, affording multiple chances at the puck bouncing around in front of the net. Perfect.

Yeah, who was it that pointed that out the other day?

I understand why you guys don't remember that it was me. I'm not very memorable.

However, that was the first time all year I've seen that approach work like that. And the reason I think it did was because someone actually shot the puck before getting within 10 feet of the net. I still think it's a dumb strategy, espicially when there are no passes to get the goalie moving side to side.


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 Post subject: Re: Luke Adam
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Squanto wrote:
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He didn't need to take more time to elevate it, Squanto. He was already in good position. He didn't have to pull it back or anything. An extra flick of the wrist is all it would have taken.


Watch the play Adam. His arms were fully extended just to get the puck. You cannot flick your wrists from that position and and elevate the puck. He would have had to pull the puck in closer to his body to do.

Whatever. This argument is pointless. I full expect to read more unreasonable criticism for the rest of the year as the team performs poorly.


I don't think anyone's criticizing him. Just noting a rookie mistake. He came back last night and buried an elevated backhander.

I like the kid. He's going to be a good player.

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 Post subject: Re: Luke Adam
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:12 pm 
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Adam still did the right thing regardless the outcome of a phantom stick.

Had he waited a second long it might not have done anything, it's not like this is a rec league where he would have had 5 extra seconds to shoot that puck. It's the NHL, there is no time to pussyfoot around.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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 Post subject: Re: Luke Adam
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:13 pm 
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adam did the right thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Luke Adam
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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
I don't think anyone's criticizing him.


Post #1 would like to disagree with you.

YankeeInRaleigh wrote:
I blame him more than ennis for our non 4th goal in the avs game, he had a LOT of real estate to shoot the puck towards, and he manages to find the 1 inch occupied by ennis's stick?


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 Post subject: Re: Luke Adam
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Squanto wrote:
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I don't think anyone's criticizing him.


Post #1 would like to disagree with you.

YankeeInRaleigh wrote:
I blame him more than ennis for our non 4th goal in the avs game, he had a LOT of real estate to shoot the puck towards, and he manages to find the 1 inch occupied by ennis's stick?


He also left it open. As if to admit that he may not be correct.

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But forget that incident, dude just doesn't seem to have it. Is anyone seeing positives in his game? Think he's got potential? Need better linemates? All i'm seeing is him being full of fail, can anyone school me on what his positives are, what I should be looking for from him?

PSP you always see the silver lining, what should I like about Luke?

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 Post subject: Re: Luke Adam
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Dear god, I cant believe what a shit-storm this has turned into.

I definitely wish i'd not even mentioned the non-goal, it really wasnt that big a deal and was not the reason I started this thread. I really, honestly, just wanted to hear peoples opinions about this kid. Hell, I thought we'd all have a chuckle at ennis totally cock-blocking adam (and the unfortunate choice of shot location). I guess i'll use a bit more discretion next time I want to say something here, I didnt know i'd have people jumping down my fucking throat for what felt like such an innocent observation.

I dont think theres anything left to be said here, sorry for any misunderstandings. Peace.


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I think at this time all points have been made and the topic should move on..

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If a coincidental occurrence didn't happen (Ennis getting shoved into the net), this thread wouldn't exist. Maybe it needs to not exist now, too.

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If a coincidental occurrence didn't happen (Ennis getting shoved into the net), this thread wouldn't exist. Maybe it needs to not exist now, too.

Maybe you need not to exist too. :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Luke Adam
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It wasn't a rookie mistake, physics just broke for a second.


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It wasn't a rookie mistake, physics just broke for a second.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.


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dbsabres06 wrote:
It wasn't a rookie mistake, physics just broke for a second.

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i love that picture, but its terrifying to think what would happen if someone got curious and swam too close to that.

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True Mike. Honestly it's just the spillway, I think someone could survive it, but they would have a few broken bones at least.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.


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