Jammerz04 wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
Roy is a second line center on any team besides Pittsburgh. To suggest he'd be a 3rd line center on a contending team is to diminish his value to absurd depth.
It all depends on productivity with the players he's playing with. But he is a pretty good center, he'd probably be #1 on teams like FLA, EDM and all those other horse shit teams.
Anyone notice the team doesn't do well with Roy around? We had one of the worst records in the league when he went down and without him in the line up we made it to the playoffs. And first game Roy comes back we see the team we seen back in the beginning half of the season when he went down.
Now he's definately not a 3rd line center on many teams but he is on some but definately not this team.
This is not definitive. Correlation does not prove causality.
Roy was around early in the season when the Sabres sucked. The Sabres improved later in the year. Roy was gone later in the year. This doesn't mean Roy was the cause of the suck. And saying it's Roy's fault they played the way they did in Game 7 seems stretching it, to put it mildly. Guy hadn't played in months, but came back anyway because who did they have for centers in Game 7 without him? Gaustad, Boyes, McCormick, ?... They were missing Hecht, Pommers and Connolly, and Roy was probably playing at about 50%. Well, shit, there goes your PK.
There were many times thoughout the first 6 games where Philly had Buffalo scrambling around the defensive zone terribly. It just so happens that they converted some of those opportunities in Game 7. The 1st one, a terrible play by Grier. He's a vet and should know not to try blocking a wrist shot from the blueline with nobody screening the goalie. Then there are 2 PP goals, because all your best PKers are out. Now you're behind the 8-ball. After that point, each team scored twice. Just finally got the result you'd expect playing against a superior team, especially with all the injuries the Sabres had.
Ham