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patkane88
PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:01 am 
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Captain will most likely go to Vanek and rotating A's with Pominville, Gaustad, Regehr and Leopold

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Gaustad.

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Vanek captained his juniors team or whatever the level is called when he was in Austria. He may captain the Austrian team as well, I don't know.

I think that Vanek has shown he has what it takes. If Stafford finally gets it, I would be opposed to seeing him get an A. He was frequently the last player off the ice in warmups last year.

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Markus
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Give it to Vanek because I can't think of anyone else on this team that is deserving. Gaustad, while one of my favorites and he plays hard, doesn't show up on a game to game basis anymore.

If we give Vanek the C, we can finally see if we get the Yashin/Satan leadership type, or someone who can lead us farther than the first round in the playoffs. This is the year he has to shine. I just want to see him stand up for himself or others.

And Regehr may deserve it, but he's a 1st year player and we know how that goes.

I cannot express how much I want that "Long term captain home type of guy". I hope when Myers get captaincy in 2-3 years he can be that guy.


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sabres1996
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Markus wrote:
Give it to Vanek because I can't think of anyone else on this team that is deserving. Gaustad, while one of my favorites and he plays hard, doesn't show up on a game to game basis anymore.

If we give Vanek the C, we can finally see if we get the Yashin/Satan leadership type, or someone who can lead us farther than the first round in the playoffs. This is the year he has to shine. I just want to see him stand up for himself or others.

And Regehr may deserve it, but he's a 1st year player and we know how that goes.

I cannot express how much I want that "Long term captain home type of guy". I hope when Myers get captaincy in 2-3 years he can be that guy.

Myers getting the C in around 3 years would be AMAZING.

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Markus
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I think we can all agree he has the potential, Myers just needs to the continued drive to win to become a good leader.


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Glad so many are on the V for C bandwagon. I guess I would be the driver of that wagon??(I remember when no one liked the idea). I have no idea how he got so many on board? The only two reasons I like him for our Fuhrer is because he is fearless, and he seems to always have a tactical edge over the opposition, which he seems to want to share with his teammates. To me he's always been a natural, great captain. He better get it, or I'll be -1 LR at the start. Language barrier is the dumbest reason for a nay, imo.


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daz28 wrote:
Glad so many are on the V for C bandwagon. I guess I would be the driver of that wagon??(I remember when no one liked the idea). I have no idea how he got so many on board? The only two reasons I like him for our Fuhrer is because he is fearless, and he seems to always have a tactical edge over the opposition, which he seems to want to share with his teammates. To me he's always been a natural, great captain. He better get it, or I'll be -1 LR at the start. Language barrier is the dumbest reason for a nay, imo.

ive been wanting V for C since he signed i his contract.

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To me, you deserve the C or A if you work hard in all zones, and lead by example. None of that "Biggest Voice in the Room" bullshit.

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TheBlackDahliaMurder wrote:
Even though he's new to the team, I think Regehr might be a possibility.


We went down that whole "Give the C to the new guy with leadership experience."

I don't want that to be repeated.

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i dont understand how it was necessarily a failure. rivets body just couldnt keep up. the players wanted him as captain.

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i dont understand how it was necessarily a failure. rivets body just couldnt keep up. the players wanted him as captain.


A Bingo.

Not sure about the NHL level (I'd assume it is just a bit tighter knit) but when I played beer/rec league a few years back, when the majority of the room are on the same page about something, they stick to it. Even when the topic was where we'd head after the game for some post-game pops. The players wanted Rivet to wear the C, so he wore the C.

As for my vote for the next Capitan, I think my homer says enough. I've got 3 C's ready to replace the A's on my Vanek sweaters ;)

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 Post subject: Who will be the captain?
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This may sound like a harsh criticism but I'm trying to give out my opinion.

I don't think Vanek should be the captain because of what he has done in the last few seasons, I think he should be captain because it will be a good way to test him and see if he can lead the team and be the player that he should be.

I don't think he has played like a captain the last few seasons, because while he has always been a scoring threat, he has been missing huge parts of his game.

I want him to become the leader he should be. But remember he has just been as part of a roller coaster as much as any other player. I remember a thread just last season on here calling for his head and comparing him to Yashin and Satan, and those weren't my words.

I think of a captain as a player who can lead the team in any situation. Someone who can score (if he is a forward) who can hit, fight when he needs to, stand up for his players in scrums, block shots, make plays...etc...

Vanek has some of those, but to be a good captain he still has to improve upon those even when he gets the C.

He probably will get the C, and I cannot imagine any other player on the roster right now totally worthy of it. Like I said Myers should be in a few seasons when he matures.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:42 pm 
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Captain - VANEK

The 2 A's I'd chose Gaustad and Regher.

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Captain is as much a responsibility off the ice as it is on the ice. Issues that go on out of town, organizing players and families, taking care of some personal matters, etc. requires a player that has respect from the team and the time to deal with it. I'm not sure Vanek, with two new babies, could really devot that time and effort. I don't think he's naturally a captain type anyway. Most scoring forwards don't get the C label because they just need to focus on making plays or scoring.

Character guys like Gaustad fit the mold better, but he doesn't see the ice as much as most captains do. Still, he's out there for big face-offs and to protect leads at the end. He fights and sticks up for everybody out there so I think he's a better choice. Pominville plays both PP and PK so he'd be a good choice also, or at least an A. It's good to have a big minute d-man with a letter also, and Leopold would be a good option for an A.

All that said, I don't know that having ONE person as the leader and/or voice of the team is really necessary. It's a team game no matter what, and everybody has to pull their weight.


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It should rotate constantly and equally between all players.
Even number players on even numbered days and odd players on odd days. Except Wednesdays of course. Wednesdays will always either be Gerbe or Gaustad based on the outcome of a best out of 5 ro-sham-bo.

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When Roy went down, Vanek stepped up, and became an almost complete player, I believe he should have it.

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Vanek_Fanatic_26 wrote:
TheBlackDahliaMurder wrote:
Even though he's new to the team, I think Regehr might be a possibility.


We went down that whole "Give the C to the new guy with leadership experience."

I don't want that to be repeated.


i agree, i don't like the idea of giving someone who's walking into the locker room for the first time the C right away.

but at the same time, i think a lot of the guys on the team when rivet came in were still young. the only other person on that roster capable of wearing the C and doing it properly was teppo- who i'm sure they knew was close to retiring. it was the best, and only feasible choice for a relatively young team.

i do think he should have been stripped of the captaincy long before he was waived. pominville, gaustad, and even vanek could have taken the role over from him. but i think it was hard for lindy. we all know the story of how the day after his letter was taken away from him, ruff asked to be traded.


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Markus
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Sabresfansince1980 wrote:
Captain is as much a responsibility off the ice as it is on the ice. Issues that go on out of town, organizing players and families, taking care of some personal matters, etc. requires a player that has respect from the team and the time to deal with it. I'm not sure Vanek, with two new babies, could really devot that time and effort. I don't think he's naturally a captain type anyway. Most scoring forwards don't get the C label because they just need to focus on making plays or scoring.

Character guys like Gaustad fit the mold better, but he doesn't see the ice as much as most captains do. Still, he's out there for big face-offs and to protect leads at the end. He fights and sticks up for everybody out there so I think he's a better choice. Pominville plays both PP and PK so he'd be a good choice also, or at least an A. It's good to have a big minute d-man with a letter also, and Leopold would be a good option for an A.

All that said, I don't know that having ONE person as the leader and/or voice of the team is really necessary. It's a team game no matter what, and everybody has to pull their weight.


Yea and that's what I mean. While I think Vanek should possibly get it on this team, there is a good chance that he wouldn't even come close on other teams.

Obviously we don't know, but from what we can tell Vanek doesn't seem to be very vocal. Atleast when I goto games and watch him on the bench he doesn't really talk much to anyone, not in the way goose or Pommers talk.


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To me, it sounds like the Captain has too much on his plate. If you want someone to deal with the wives & non-ice-related issues it sounds like you need an Ombudsman. Either a different player, or preferably an office person. Get the wives involved. Seriously, the Captain should be more concerned about on-ice issues than dealing with family stuff.


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