taking word from people who are doing the grunt labor in a field like that is not a good way to get scientific information.

I'm jailbroken. Best of both worlds.

And resetting the phone so the jailbreak is gone is all you have to do to avoid the warranty cancellation, as I'm sure you know.

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Larger screen has nothing to do with better, larger screen means one thing, yes a better resolution, but worse battery life.

So I want to see 1080p on a 4 inch screen? Why, in large TV's you will only notice 1080p in screens larger than 40 inches, 720p to 1080p on a 4 inch screen, the naked eye will never notice the difference.

4G is still only useful if you have it, for those that don't have it, don't need it. Plus 4G and battery life don't mix right now either, and we all know Droids would be dead in 2 hours with 4G on, they already can't keep a charge for more than 4 hours. (exaggeration if you can't tell)

Better OS? How is it so much better, I want your opinion on why, besides customization, because you can customize iOS as much as you want to. Yes, you need a jailbreak, but you have access to EVERYTHING down to the exe files or whatever they are called in iOS and can do what you want with it then.

My personal experience, iOS is smoother, runs better and faster, and works very well. I have only had to cold restart my phone maybe 2 times total, plus I don't need an app killer to kill apps either.

The largest processor I've seen in a phone is only rated at a 1.5GHz dual core. The iPhone 4S is running dual core 1 GHz. Pretty much the only thing you listed which to me is anything.

One thing I noticed is the RAM of all these phones. Pretty much all are at 1GB. You can have the fastest processor out there, but with little RAM it means nothing. Your computer and phone can only processor apps as fast as the RAM will allow. Got a lot of apps running, you'll have used a lot of RAM.

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i wasnt aware you could do that. thats cool. (go back to unjailbroken)

ive thought about rooting my DX so i can get rid of bloatware, but im too much a pussy to.

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supposedly, android 4.0.0 (4.1.0 is out now too) is a bare android OS. no "motoblur" or "HTC sense"... just pure google android. i guess thats why it runs so seamlessly. every android phone is considered an "iphone killer" and the only one that really come anywhere close is the EVO. but i hear the google galaxy nexus is just the perfect phone in terms of how it runs.

also, google wallet just sounds awesome.

i was reading reviews, and for ATT, apparently the galaxy S2 is still the highest rated ATT phone. but that was over the summer. the iphone 4 was number 2. i guess because just how seamless the S2 OS runs.

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For you apple guys out there, I got a quick question for you.

My android comes with built in google navigation (freaking love it), but my wifes Iphone does not. In fact it has no navigation at all, even though it seems to have a mapping program. Do you guys have a favorite navigation program for your iphones? Is it free?

This is some of the most twisted logic I've ever read.

I've come across a few iPone people saying similar things.
"Well my iPhone is as fast as I need therefore, 4G is useless for me"

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot....there were a shitton of people who were very disappointed the iPhone 4s was announced without LTE.

My droid can get consistently over 20Mbps, and is a WiFi hotspot for up to 5 other devices....for free.

I guess iPhone users wouldn't like anything like that...nope, not them.

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Egh, it's the principal of the thing.
Like buying oil from a repressive regime.

You may not be beheading adulterers, but you're paying for the sword.

/Yes I hate the iTunes/iPhone model that much

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Oh well. Free tethering, 5 rows of icons, and the upgraded folders. That's all I've done to it. Well worth it.

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It doesn't bother you that Apple forces you to jailbreak the thing just to accomplish standard tasks?

I mean...those are some of the simplest customizations you'd think *any* user would want.

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Hold my beer and watch this...

Would I like to be a standard option? Absolutely. But the rest of iOS is too good for me to move to another platform.

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I'm not suggesting anyone use a tool they don't want to use.

I'm just pointing out the absurdity of simply putting up with whatever features / hardware Apple decides to let you use.
The iPhone could have probably hundreds of features that are available on other phones that iPhone users would also think would be nice to have standard.

Little things like being able to change your battery or storage media...an FM radio tuner (wait, the iPhone already has one inside but Apple has decided you don't want to use it) etc. etc.

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Rooted my D2 few months ago, best thing I ever did. It's a tad more difficult now with the 2.3 update though, you've got to do it with a computer, although it's still a "one-click" procedure. With 2.2 you could install an app that did it for you.

I've disabled all the bloatware and given myself free wireless tethering. The tethering is extremely useful, especially when I go away for a few days and don't have wifi available (very handy in the southern tier/finger lakes region of NY).

Plus there's some other nifty things I've toyed around with.

Whatever. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I unlocked their panoramic camera feature too. The reason they haven't allowed people to use it yet is because it sucks.

There are tons and tons of phone users out there who have no idea how to work that kind of stuff you're talking about Ed. Steve Jobs' vision was to keep things simple. You can't argue with his success and the amount of people that this type of system appeals to.

And for those of us that want to change our battery icons to the hampton coliseum? There's jail breaking.

Not perfect, but it is what it is.

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Apple wants to be in control.

Perhaps they should review their own history.

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I was saying for the people who can't get 4G and it won't be available for some time, why pay for it or even have the option really. I can see having the option but never using it, but paying for it is a different story.

And how are you getting a hotspot for free? Because Verizon and AT&T charges you when they find out about unauthorized tethering. Because I tried to get it free on my phone.

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and in some places, people dont get 3G service. guess we should just not have 3G phones.

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And those people probably don't have a 3G phone then.

You're not comprehending what I'm saying at all.

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unless their cell phone is from 1997, its probably a 3g phone. 4g may not be available everywhere, but a 4g capable phone is becoming the standard. and thats why apples omission of such a feature is perplexing.

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It's actually not perplexing at all when you think about it. Lower device cost = higher profit.

Their market analysis must have concluded that lack of 4G wasn't going to be a huge issue with their ability to sell the 4s.

So far, they've been right. lol

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