No, actually it doesn't surprise me at all that many don't understand my point. As I already said, fans are all about immediate satisfaction and generally aren't as concerned with the long term effects of an occurence---as long as they get what they want NOW!

This notion of a "culture of losing" that is somehow enhanced by what may be the tipping point for Darcy to act is completely irrelevant.

Just for shits and giggles, let me try this more explicitly:

IF that 7th loss actually DID cause Darcy to make several moves IMPORVING the team and getting that much closer to winning the cup, would you STILL be upset with the loss?

I think your point has been made

If both of you could use the reply option or snip posts and not continue to pyramid quote, it would be appreciated.

a decent chunk of people, i will admit not me, have been waiting for close for 40 years, longer than i have even been alive, for a cup



yes, we want immediate sastification, because WE WANT THE FUCKING CUP

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just as much as a win is shortsighted for the fans, its shortsighted for management as well. do you really think dacry is going to throw out the previous 59 games, and cite that one game as the basis for his moves come the deadline? win or lose, darcy knows the sabres holes, and win or lose, hes going to attempt to correct them. win or lose. nothing, not one thing, changed because of that win.

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I disagree. I'm fairly confident that most everyone here gets your point.

It's just that nobody agrees with it.

That was funny.

Pay no attention to CrazyPuck

We should trade away everyone and go for the number one pick in the draft and lose all of our games.

Get a guy who has never played goalie in his life and let him be goalie. Make the defense guys play forward and make the forwards play defense.

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Totally!

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Freaking Isles. Had a 3-1 lead in the 3rd and blew it.

Sounds like something the Sabres would do.

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Hockey Night in Buffalo

I explicitly illustrated the point in this hypothetical:

"IF that 7th loss actually DID cause Darcy to make several moves IMPORVING the team and getting that much closer to winning the cup, would you STILL be upset with the loss?"

To disagree, even with this spelled out, is just plain foolish.

Yes, we don't know what Darcy is thinking, HOWEVER, the only point I was making is that a POSITIVE byproduct of a loss to the Sharks may have been that it would contribute to, if not be the catalyst for, NEEDED CHANGE.

No talk of TRYING to lose, no talk of "encouraging a culture of losing", no "tanking" on purpose.

It's funny how many will take a straightforward and logical supposition and either misread and misquote it, or flat out not understand the underlying point.

And BY THE WAY...

If losing a game lands you in a more preferable playoff spot based on pairings and how well you match up with different teams, you'd have to be a fool to not acknowledge that in some cases, YES, a loss is better.

Unless of course you are a blind homer who cannot see past tonight's victory beer bash and haven't any concept of overall startegy in controlling your destiny in the post season.

For the umpteenth time, I never said to TRY and lose, but sometimes a loss is not as bad as you're making it out to be if it somehow can contribute to the greater good.

If that's too heavy for you, sorry I mentioned it.

See this? That's totally uncalled for.

I, and many others, understand EXACTLY what your point is. You've repeated it ad nauseum. You can continue to weave your hypothetical scenarios, and I STILL won't agree with your premise.

You've made a couple snide comments about how your opinion is so advanced and difficult to comprehend for others. That shit can stop. Rule #1 around here, the Icehound rule : Thou shalt not be a douche.

You're being one. Take a few days off to think about it.

I have to disagree with preferable playoff matchups as well. The reason I don't put much stock into that is because most years in order to be the best, you have to beat the best.

No One Caresonlina situations almost never happen.

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Does that surprise you?

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