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 Post subject: Re: Same old routine
PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:14 pm 
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Sabresfansince1980 wrote:
Yeah, for some reason both Pitt and NJ are playing like garbage lately. I don't pay as much attention to them obviously, so I don't know if it's an effort and discipline issue or just an honest loss. As I said above, I'm fine with a loss if they played they way they are suppossed to. We all know too well how Buffalo just doesn't show up mentally or physically sometimes. It's been an issue for three seasons and Miller sounds fed up with it. I know other teams have similar problems from time to time, but they don't win a Stanley Cup either.

I'm real happy with a playoff team and a series win or two. I don't obsess about a Stanley Cup the way some fans do, because I just won't ever expect that out of this organization. If however, that is an expectation from the team and staff, they should probably figure out why there are routine mental checkouts and solve that problem.


Here's a clip it of an interview after the Pittsburgh loss:

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"It was pretty bad. There's no sugarcoating it or trying to make something positive out of it, we didn't do anything that was positive," Crosby said. "We weren't ready to play. We thought we were going to play a team that laid down and isn't going to go to the playoffs, and we were just going to show up. Clearly, it didn't happen."


Here's one after a San Jose loss to Dallas:

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The Sharks fell into some of the same bad habits which plagued them during an 0-5-1 slump that preceded the four consecutive wins.

"We gave up 2-on-1s, 3-on-2s," San Jose defenseman Dan Boyle said. "Defensively we weren't on the same page. We were poor tonight."


Noticing anything similar?

You judge the Sabres harshly because you admittedly don't pay attention to the rest of the NHL.

There's no such thing as a team that brings it every night. It just can't happen.

Luckily for us, the Sabres are one of the teams that does it more often, and it's landing them a top 3 seed in the east.

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 Post subject: Re: Same old routine
PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:24 pm 
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"...you admittedly don't pay attention to the rest of the NHL."

I obviously don't pay AS MUCH attention to other teams. I don't pay for Center Ice to leave it turned off whenever Buffalo isn't playing. Those are familiar quotes, and I totally see your point, but with Buffalo it has been a plague for three seasons. If it was just a handful of games every year I wouldn't care, because I know with guaranteed contracts (my pet peeve) that players won't show up from time to time (or entire seasons). It's routine with Buffalo, as Miller stated. He's tired of it, and so am I.

I just hope that the mental focus will be there come playoff time.


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 Post subject: Re: Same old routine
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Sabresfansince1980 wrote:
"...you admittedly don't pay attention to the rest of the NHL."

I obviously don't pay AS MUCH attention to other teams. I don't pay for Center Ice to leave it turned off whenever Buffalo isn't playing. Those are familiar quotes, and I totally see your point, but with Buffalo it has been a plague for three seasons. If it was just a handful of games every year I wouldn't care, because I know with guaranteed contracts (my pet peeve) that players won't show up from time to time (or entire seasons). It's routine with Buffalo, as Miller stated. He's tired of it, and so am I.

I just hope that the mental focus will be there come playoff time.


I agree it's been troubling in the past. It has a lot to do with the age of our core players.

I will say that I've been very impressed with the progress of the maturity level this season.

They show shades of their former selves at times, but I really can't hate on them for their consistency when the results are favorable.

As for Miller's comments, I don't read into them too much. You can never get an honest, well thought interview from a player when a loss is fresh on his mind. They're purely emotion driven.

Tomorrow, a pre game interview will reveal him saying something along the lines of, "We had a hiccup in Toronto, but we've been going good lately and we need to bounce back and close out the division."

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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Sabresfansince1980 wrote:
"...you admittedly don't pay attention to the rest of the NHL."

I obviously don't pay AS MUCH attention to other teams. I don't pay for Center Ice to leave it turned off whenever Buffalo isn't playing. Those are familiar quotes, and I totally see your point, but with Buffalo it has been a plague for three seasons. If it was just a handful of games every year I wouldn't care, because I know with guaranteed contracts (my pet peeve) that players won't show up from time to time (or entire seasons). It's routine with Buffalo, as Miller stated. He's tired of it, and so am I.

I just hope that the mental focus will be there come playoff time.


I agree it's been troubling in the past. It has a lot to do with the age of our core players.

I will say that I've been very impressed with the progress of the maturity level this season.

They show shades of their former selves at times, but I really can't hate on them for their consistency when the results are favorable.

As for Miller's comments, I don't read into them too much. You can never get an honest, well thought interview from a player when a loss is fresh on his mind. They're purely emotion driven.

Tomorrow, a pre game interview will reveal him saying something along the lines of, "We had a hiccup in Toronto, but we've been going good lately and we need to bounce back and close out the division."
I think Miller's a bit angry that his stats are not where they were earlier on in the year.

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 Post subject: Re: Same old routine
PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:32 pm 
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jordano wrote:
I think Miller's a bit angry that his stats are not where they were earlier on in the year.


did I just let that goal in noooooo my staaaaaaattttssssss

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 Post subject: Re: Same old routine
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jordano wrote:
I think Miller's a bit angry that his stats are not where they were earlier on in the year.


did I just let that goal in noooooo my staaaaaaattttssssss

:lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Same old routine
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No offense , but this is typical Buffalo Fan Reactionary Pessimism.

When they win, it doesn't really count because the team they beat was bad. When they lose, it's proof that it's the 'same old Sabres' who play down to their competition.

They played a pretty iffy game last night, against a team that has been playing pretty good since it was shaken up, and basically lost by 1. You don't think every person in that Toronto locker room didn't know that they hadn't beaten the Sabres in well over a calendar year? They don't have the playoffs to look forward to, but you KNOW they wanted to get that off their back.

It's not all sunshine and lollipops, but I just wish us fans could find the happy medium between stitching the championship banners after a win, and jumping off a bridge after a loss.

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 Post subject: Re: Same old routine
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This thread should have ended with Squanto's post. To a fucking tee, Tom. To a fucking tee.

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 Post subject: Re: Same old routine
PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:23 pm 
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Et tu, Brute?

That's fine, I can handle people ganging up on me. But really, all I'm doing is agreeing/parroting what the players themselves said/have said. Should we DISAGREE when a player (especially a respected player like Miller) calls out the team for a recurring problem? Should we puke rainbows like PSP (kidding, relax) or just talk good when they win? I would've posted more the last two weeks if I wasn't out of town and busy every night. I would've posted happy things about the wins, but still cautioned against the level of opposotion they faced.

Anyway, fwiw, I'm still happy for this season and at least one playoff round. I just don't expect the best out of them yet...until they can prove otherwise. They haven't earned that kind of trust and respect yet from most fans or around the league.


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 Post subject: Re: Same old routine
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Sabresfansince1980 wrote:
They haven't earned that kind of trust and respect yet from most fans or around the league.


And that really confuses me. They've lead the division pretty much the entire season, never been close to out of playoff contention, and are currently second in the conference, yet people generally still look at them like they're in the 8/9/10 schmozle fighting to get in.

It's odd really.


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 Post subject: Re: Same old routine
PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:41 pm 
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I don't see that. Every time I'm watching NHL Network when Buffalo comes up it's pretty much the same opinion - a solid, 2nd tier team that isn't up to the level of a legit Stanley Cup contender. They're a worthy division winner, but not up with Washington (although I doubt their defense/goaltending), Chicago, San Jose, Vancouver, and probably Detroit now.

I still think they have a decent chance in the East, due to what I consider mediocrity, but not more than a snowball's chance in June against the Western teams. I see all the top teams playing pretty flat lately, except for Detroit. That won't continue in the playoffs though, and the regular season. Buffalo is a team that still needs to prove themselves in the playoffs. NJ, Pit, and even Wash has had top rate playoff efforts or recent playoff experience. Sure, Buffalo COULD beat them, but you can't possibly call them a favorite until they actually do it. I'll be a hopeful skeptic in the meantime.


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 Post subject: Re: Same old routine
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If Miller posted here what he said in the postgame last night....he's be called a troll!

Uhhhhhhhh no. Miller believes in this team and the philosophy that Darcy has built.

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 Post subject: Re: Same old routine
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When we get into the playoffs, a win is a win is a win. I don't care how it's won, how badly they played to get that win, just win is all that matters.

We lost a game against Toronto, big deal really. I mean we've been leading our division for the entire year basically, been a top 3 team in the east and top 6 team in the league, we've beaten the best teams in both conferences and lost to the worst teams.

We've earned points in 53 of our games this year, and winning and earning points is what matters.

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 Post subject: Re: Same old routine
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jordano wrote:
I think Miller's a bit angry that his stats are not where they were earlier on in the year.


did I just let that goal in noooooo my staaaaaaattttssssss

Meh, you're not a goalie so you don't know what I speak of

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Well I wish Miller's stats were better because I hate seeing that stupid Tuuka Rask's goofy face every time I check the league leaders. There are Boston fans who think he is better than Miller and it's annoying because Rask has played in like 40 games, oOoOoOoooooo big deal

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 Post subject: Re: Same old routine
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:10 pm 
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Don't worry, Rask won't get as much credit or respect as Miller, no matter what way you slice it. Rask will get his due after fully replacing Thomas (which should've happened by game #20) and having some team success.

Miller is a lock for the Vezina and should be considered for the Hart, but I doubt he gets any other hardware.


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 Post subject: Re: Same old routine
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Sabresfansince1980 wrote:
Don't worry, Rask won't get as much credit or respect as Miller, no matter what way you slice it. Rask will get his due after fully replacing Thomas (which should've happened by game #20) and having some team success.

Miller is a lock for the Vezina and should be considered for the Hart, but I doubt he gets any other hardware.


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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Sabresfansince1980 wrote:
Don't worry, Rask won't get as much credit or respect as Miller, no matter what way you slice it. Rask will get his due after fully replacing Thomas (which should've happened by game #20) and having some team success.

Miller is a lock for the Vezina and should be considered for the Hart, but I doubt he gets any other hardware.


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Lol I CLICKED IT! haha Im not superstitious... Just a little stitious... haha :P (Michael Scott in case anyone was wondering haa Im not THAT dumb :P )

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So we should win every single game in the season and we can't loose? We had 7 wins in 10 games come on. Don't complain about that!
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I think we all know we can clinch the division. Its all just a matter of when and where. I mean ya it is still possible to lose it. but the magic number is still 4. If we win tonight and Ottawa loses we get the division. Its bound to happen eventually.

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